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Dance
09-04-2001, 10:38 AM
This may seem like a silly question, but I am curious about something. When measuring erect length, someone (sorry I forgot who it was) said they flex. So in other words when measuring bone pressed they flex the PC to get the absolute maximum length. Do many of you guys do this? Is this the way you think most guys in the general public measure? I don't think so, because many don't even know about the PC, but if they do then we are not on the same page. It makes a big difference to me in the measurment, and up to this point I have not measured that way. However, if others do it then that is the way I should do for my own comparison. I know, I know, who cares about others, but I am still curious OK.
Dance

dino775
09-04-2001, 10:52 AM
dance

good ???? I would also like to know I don't but I'm bigger when I flex.

Dino

titanium30
09-04-2001, 11:17 AM
I find that flexing my pc makes it shorter when I stretch it out flacid, but simply lifts it when erect. I measure pretty much straight out, with the ruler against the (pubic?) bone.

titanium

wx
09-04-2001, 02:21 PM
if by "flex" you mean kegeling to get that last bit of blood pumped in, then yes, absolutely.

i look to get the absolute largest legitimate measurement possible--not because i'm going to sweat 1/8" one way or another, but to keep the measurements as consistent as possible. if my cock's fully inflated, then it's fully inflated--end of story. i don't have to wonder.

i should add that it's more complicated than this, of course. there are still variations. we're flesh and blood, after all. but i try to minimize or eliminate all the variables as much as possible.

wx

09-04-2001, 02:37 PM
I personally flex when I measure for the same reason as wx. For consistent measurement. However it makes a difference of about 1/8 to 3/16 of an inch for me. Maybe we should make a new measurement, ELBPFlex, so we can distinguish this difference with people.

Sub

Dance
09-04-2001, 02:41 PM
Yes well thanks for the replies. I look forward to others. So then do you guys think that is what GQ public does when they enter the surveys?
Dance

YGuy
09-04-2001, 06:24 PM
I do a bone pressure measure on top, and yes flex. I don't get much out of the flex, maybe 1/8th. The whole purpose for me is to get as much blood into my penis and measure. As far as the public goes.. im not sure.....

wx
09-04-2001, 06:32 PM
that's a good question (about j.q. public), and i've thought about it a fair amount in the larger context of how he measures in general (ie bp/nbp, etc.).

my conclusion? i have no idea...

but my best guess is that as far as this aspect is concerned (flexing) he does everything in his power to be as big as possible.

why?

well, assuming we're talking about anonymous surveys here, he's concerned with whether or not he measures up. sure it's anonymous, and no one's going to know that *he* has a dink of any particular length. but he recognizes the fear of "measuring up" in himself, assumes others will have the same fear, assumes others will inflate their measurements as much as is conscionable as a result, and that it's only fair he do the same to be in the running.

of course, i'm sure not everyone does this, but i suspect it's a pretty good percentage.

wx

P9
09-05-2001, 08:46 AM
I get slightly shorter when I flex the PC. I'm sure I'm doing it correctly-- same as the "stop peeing" flex.

I'm therefore not about the start flexing the PC when measuring.

wx
09-05-2001, 11:04 AM
pumpinon8, i know what you and titanium are saying about measuring shorter. i used to observe this phenomenon somewhat regularly too.

however, as i've refined my methods, i find i rarely see it anymore. i measure with my erection parallel to the floor, but my natural angle is a fair amount higher. in using the ruler to push down my erection, i suspect it also somewhat ameliorates the full effect of a pc flex.

here's another possibility. i confess i've let my pc muscle go to hell (relatively speaking) in the last few months, but i still have a pretty good feel for it. as a result i find i can flex it in more than one way. for measuring, i've chosen one way and stuck with it. the point is, perhaps some of us have learned to flex slightly differently?

here's another possibilty. lets forget what i said above for a moment. what if, when we flex, our volume is redistributed in more than one direction? iow, what if a good pc flex *both* increases measured length by further inflating the penis and decreases measured length by pulling the penis closer the body? the final measurement adds the difference of the two. this may be longer or shorter than without the flex. and this difference varies not only from measurement to measurement based on a number of variables but certainly varies considerably from individual to individual.

wx

Dance
09-05-2001, 11:42 AM
There are several ways to flex the PC. A long time ago I posted how if a person really wants to get the PC so they can have an orgasm without ejaculating etc., then focus more on the inside of your body. Use the finger and put between your testicles and anus and feel the movement when you flex. Your anus and penis may have a secondary involuntary movement, but you are not trying to actually flex or clinch them. That is the proper way to flex the PC.

However, another useful exercise is to get hard, or flex and make it hard, and then flex the pc and flush blood directly into the penis totally expanding it. I am pretty beat up with pe now and taking a short break. Soon I will actually measure the difference, but when I flex I know I can make the head 1/4 bigger and the whole thing is longer as well. I don't know how much though.

So my point about the measuring is that I can go from nbp to bp and flexed and there might be as much as 1 1/4 inch difference. That is pretty substantial when stating my size. I just wanted to know if others flexed.

Based on the typical lack of participants to questions I ask here I am again no better off in my knowledge base. I am repeadily disappointed in how people never bother to help in simple questions. Oh but when they ask questions they want answers. Thanks to the ones that helped though. As for the hundred and something other guys that just lurked well... I have no idea what to think since they did not comment. I guess if they flexed then they would say so, and since they did not comment then probably they don't, but who knows.
Dance

09-05-2001, 04:11 PM
I alway flex my pc when measuring. I do get a slightly larger measurement. I believe that this measurement constitutes my maximum length at that time. Also, I am sure that we all flex to some degree when we are engaged in intercourse so this measurement does have some practical value. Dance, don't take it personally that everyone fails to respond to certain posts. The main thing is you put an idea/question out there for all to think about and respond to if they choose. All ideas are valuable even if they do not elicit a response. The degree of your insight and experience is greatly appreciated by all on this board so keep throwing those ideas and insights out there. They are appreciated.

09-05-2001, 04:54 PM
Dance it is hard for a newbie to feel we are contributing until we have something to show for it.

My $0.02 would be everyone is trying to get the max they can get. Who wants to say they are smaller. Therefore if flexing works for you go for it. For me, flexing can actually turn back a hard one. I guess my mind just associates it with trying to control ejaculation. Tried the multi-O for years, sometimes it works for me other times it doesn't and just takes all the fun out of the event.

In summary make it max and take the tape to it.

Sizemeister
09-05-2001, 08:32 PM
Bone pressed along the top and flex, just like most everyone who has replied.

I figure if we're talking maximum erect length, why not make it as max as possible? The size you have when kegeling and sustaining an erection is certainly usable length, so it should count. Or that's my opinion, anyway :)

Size

1 quest
09-05-2001, 09:58 PM
I flex for the same reason as wx.

quest

Kiwi
09-06-2001, 03:32 AM
Same for me, bone pressed and flexed, for the same reasons (consistency). It doesn't make much difference for me though, less than 1/4".

Dance
09-06-2001, 10:14 AM
OK guys thanks for your repies. I think it makes more difference for some than others. I still have not determined how much difference for me and it may not be that much. However, it does make a difference. Like I said I can make the head grow 1/4 inch by flexing. Man you want to really get some attention do that when the girl is looking at your crotch lol.
Dance

dino775
09-06-2001, 11:13 AM
Hey Guys

Never thought of flexing while measuring I always thought that was kinda like cheating but what the fuck if thats the way you all do it I'm going to start doing it to I don't know what kind of gain I will get but I should at least get 1/8 to 1/4
which is about 4 months of work if not more for me. Keep this going I would like to know if most do this?

Dino

Nortical
09-06-2001, 11:43 AM
I didn't flex the PC neither but will start doing it. I just never thought of it when measuring lenght.

If I was gonna measure head girth I would absolutely do this, because that gives the true size of it. My head size changes very much even with only small changes in the quality of erection and hornyness (correct English?!).

Come to think about it, why should it be any different when measuring lenght? The head is part of the lenght too.
I think flexed measurements gives the most accurate size and I will measure like that in the future.

Norti

Dance
09-06-2001, 12:04 PM
Just for the record I was not advocating one way or the other. My post was designed to answer one question for me. In the surveys does the average joe do this or not? I don't think they do, but not sure.
Dance

Growing
09-06-2001, 07:27 PM
Yup, flexed with maximum blood in there so the next measurement can be compared with the same level of blood in it to measure gains. Hard to compare with measurements if you measure without the flex I would think.

Growing

PEnister
09-09-2001, 09:26 AM
First, regarding multi orgasm with kegels.
I'd like to point out that it doesnt actually prevents ejaculation but actually stops it in the middle, which may cause serious damage in the long run (think of inflating a balloon to the max, and then trying to put the same amount of air to a balloon with half the capacity...)
so be careful when you do that.

And regarding the original question, I kegel too.
And I get the max length of just before ejaculation.
Considering I kegel when having sex, now, it's not that much of a difference. If I get REALLY excited it's the same length too.

Regarding the general public, even if they knew about it and did it in measurements too, i doubt it would make any difference considering their puny P.C. :)
Not to mention I bet allot of men increase their measurement (or measure from the site or whatever) due to psychological reasons.

Penister.

Guiri
09-19-2001, 03:32 PM
Some time ago I started using my flaccid stretched length as my measuring method. It may be 1-1.5cm longer than my true EL, but I find it the most consistent. I can measure 5 times consecutively and get the same measurement each time (I stretch to the max and bone press hard, so the max is the max!) That is to say my FSL is 19.2cm (7.56"), BPEL 18cm approx. and NBP 16.3cm.

Of course, it is the NBP measurement that "interests" me the most. It is the measurement I consider for size, i.e. my confidence level has risen since passing the 6" mark. The other measuements are solely for gains comparison.

Getting back to the original question, I can get a pretty impressive looking hard-on sitting on a chair, leaning back slighty, flexing the PC and pulling my sack down. I even measure near on 7" NBP, but I dont consider this a true measuement.

I always measure standing up, and I do flex to try to boost it up to a 'sexual intercourse' hard-on, as we all know what happens when the tape makes it's appearance....

I've always considered survey results to be generally NBP, and consider quiet reliable those who have an "average" of around 5.5" and very, very few over 7". Others which post an average of over 6" are either,in my opion, BP surveys or perhaps measured by the participants themselves (and I for one, who was always around the 14cm/5.5" mark, always subconiously told myself I was 15cm, or "6 inches", and would probably have mentioned that in any survey in which I participated).