Hello Bib

[Dance]

Bib,
After all this time of me being on the board I realize I have never wrote to you directly. I know that you have followed some of the posts between Phat and I, and have given your approval etc. Phat has really got me on track now with the hanging. On the last post Phat said I should be asking you questions. It made me realize that for whatever reason I have never wrote you. I guess it is because I know that for a while you were on and off the board because of your family situations etc., and I just somehow felt like I would be bothering you. Anyway, I want to say how much I appreciate your generosity with posting your diagrams of the Bib and your continued support. It seems as if you are more around lately so I thought it would be a good time to tell you that.

If you don't mind I do have some questions. They have to do with hanging in different directions. If you read the other posts you see that hanging with the over the leg stretch or laying on the side of the bed is something that I foolishly did not do. After the first time of doing a 20 minute set I feel this something that I should not avoid. What I am asking from you is your opinion of a ratio of hanging strait down to different directions. I currently hang 5 sets as a minimum. I will attempt to do more sets as time goes on. Anyway, there are various ways to do this.

1 down
1 left
1 right
1 over the shoulder
1 down

or

2 down
1 left
1 right
(every few days over the shoulder)
1 down

Obviously there are a number of variables for instance

2 down
1 angle (10 min left 10 right)
1 overhead
1 down

The main concern I have is that maybe the angles don't need to be hit as much and I should keep the main focus on the down hang. Maybe I only need to do the angles every other day etc. So the question is: if you can recall your main hanging back in the day, what kind of ratio did you use down/angles? How often did you, and do you continue to, hang at the different angles. When hanging to hit the sides what do you think is best, hanging over the leg while sitting or laying on the bed or the combo etc?

This will help me with my routine and I thank you for your help.

P.S. I am just sitting down to hang after posting this and it dawned on me to also ask you this. It is something I have wondered and other too probably for a while. How did you manage to hang that many hours in a day? Actually I have the time now so maybe I could pull off many hours a day also. What I am asking is if you hung set after set and then stopped for eating and routines ect and just keep coming back to hang? Possible like many sets in the A.M. and then also afternoon and night. Or did you try to hang with a little of a break as possible. That would be too hard on the skin and my back sitting on the edge of the chair etc. In other words did you take long breaks during the day?
Dance

[Bib]

Dance,

Really good questions.

The easiest way to think about this is to realize you have about 270 degrees of hang up and down, and about 180 degrees side to side.

With each say 15 to 20 degees of 'hang change', I could feel a different area of stretch. I always felt I received the most benefit from hanging between straight out and down 'between the cheeks'. This is a 180 degree arc which can be achieved sitting in a chair. I put an extension on my office chair which while sitting straight up, allowed me to hang at a 90 degee angle. Then sliding my butt out over the edge allowed for the hang straight down. With a high back office chair and a rope extension, I could get maybe a thirty degree change over the shoulder by sliding backward or forwards. Therefore I covered maybe 210 degrees of a possible 270.

I remember a guy on the boards a long time ago that had a pulley installed in his ceiling. He hung straight up and moved around in his chair to get a different pull. This would be within the 60 degrees that I missed.

Probably 80 percent of the time, I hung within the 180 degrees from straight out, to 'btc'. The other twenty were over the legs and over the shoulder. This twenty percent still amounted to a lot of hours.

When hanging within the above mentioned 180 degrees, I could almost always feel a good stretch. It felt as though something was happening somewhere; either tunica, ligs etc.

After a while, it did not seem that over the legs and shoulder was giving me as good of a stretch as in the beginning. In other words, after the first few months of hanging, an occasional hang across the legs or shoulder would give a good stretch. Any additional time did not feel as if it was doing anything productive. On average, I probably hung once or twice per day OTL or OTS.

As I have always said, you really need to go with what you are feeling. If you don't feel the work, then change. Divide and conquer. I am sure everyone is different. Probably all would benefit from the different angles of hang, but some will benefit more at different angles.

When hanging across the legs, I was always seated. This can range from the hip to the knee.

>How did you manage to hang that many hours in a day? Actually I have the time now so maybe I could pull off many hours a day also. What I am asking is if you hung set after set and then stopped for eating and routines ect and just keep coming back to hang? Possible like many sets in the A.M. and then also afternoon and night. Or did you try to hang with a little of a break as possible. That would be too hard on the skin and my back sitting on the edge of the chair etc. In other words did you take long breaks during the day? <

I work all day and usually into the night at home; either on the phone or computer. As I had to be in this chair all day anyway, I set everything up to PE all day. Multitasking. I don't eat during the day. I did not hang all day from the very beginning. It took probably six months or more before I got used to it, and had made a hanger comfortable enough to do it. Then, the only breaks I had, other than the 10 minutes between sets were when I went to the bathroom, or maybe had to run an errand or had a meeting. Also, from time to time, I would work on a hanger in the garage, but usually I could work on a newer version while hanging at my desk.

Most of the time, I was able to hang throughtout the day, twenty minutes at a time. I would note the start times on a post-it note on my desk. Usually, there would be at least 15 entries at the end of the day. Also, after everyone had gone to bed, I would usually hang for a couple hours in my easy chair with a blanket over my legs. I called this adventure hanging.

Thanks for your kind words,

Bigger

PS: please send your email address to the addy on my personal page. Thanks

[Dance]

Bib,
What an inovator you are. This is very interesting to me. I have always thought that when I stand and lean forward it stretches the hell out of it. That is getting close to a strait out pull. Yes I really should rig up something for that strait pull. Besides that, I could hang so much more comfortable on my back cause I can sit up strait with my back against the chair. It seems like I could just sit up against the back of the chair and then have the hanger point strait and let the string and weights just hang over the edge of the chair. Like I said in another post to Growing, I can remember reading about hanging weights and in the old days guys would sleep on a cot with a hole in it and hang the weight strait down. Yes, that strait out is an area I need to experiment with more. And in addition I need to hang more with the feet propped so it will reach a further angle. Alright, I am glad I wrote to you.
Dance

Dance and Bib,

Alas! Completeness! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Oh, and by the way, if this is a private thing between you 2, I apologize. But YES, YES, YES! The mystery is solved and I'm one happy dude!

TC

Dance,

Two suggestions for rigs that allow you to hang straight out.

First, my computer is not on a desk, but rather on a table. I just hung a pulley at the back of the table, under the ass end of my monitor. So sitting at the computer the pull was pretty much straight out, or more in the "down" direction if I slumped in the chair.

Second, for lounging on the couch watching TV, or lying down, you can hang a pulley on a camera tripod, and stand the tripod up out away from you at some convenient place. To keep it from tipping over, the back center leg of the tripod should be shortened, so that it leans away from the direction of pull. You can see an example of this setup (lying down) in my pictures on the uncut4big club on Yahoo. See Peabody's pics.

I used the swimcap condom, but of course the pulley would work with any attachment method. It's just a question of using the pulley to get the desired vector.

The cheap pulleys you find at Home Depot work ok, but they have a good bit of friction. For under $10 you can get a ball-bearing pulley. I found mine at Boater's World.

Hope this helps. Oh, and by the way, I hung heavy weights for over four months, but got no gains. Most of that was "straight out".

Good luck.

Peabody

[Dance]

Peabody,
Thanks for the tips and the visual.

well im also another happy fellow due to this post,they said other angles of hanging would not work.i hang straight out,straight down[sitting],and what i call hubbard hang{standing swinging weight slowly back and forth. each at 30 minutes.i came up with nine angles that i use that way i cant miss much.pretty good for my 81/4x 61/2 ...............
bib thanks a million

[Dance]

Well this is what I came up with in a pinch. I sit upright in a regular chair and then put another chair in front or it. That way the hanger points strait out and the string has enough space to go strait forward until it hits the edge of the chair and then the weights drop down so I have a strait out pull. It does feel different. I have noticed that the hanger attachment requires a little more pressure and I have to be careful and stay slightly further back from the head so it does not fall into the gap and start pinching etc. Anyway, I will have to get some sort of pulling thing, but for now it works great.

The tripod has a great many possibilities. A person can stretch in countless directions. I will get one soon so I can stretch laying down, in the recliner, facing toward, away etc...

i use the shower door for a standing straigt out stretch