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03-19-2001, 02:42 PM
Question for the experienced jelqers: Is it ok to end a jelqing session with an orgasm, or is it better to keep masturbation separate from jelqing. I don't know about ya'll, but after 45 minutes of jelqing I'm pretty horny and find it hard (excuse the pun) not to take it all the way.

I was just wondering if it might be better to save the testestorone, rather than release it all after jelqing... but I know I would find it difficult to abstain.

I jelq every other day.

titanium30
03-19-2001, 03:09 PM
I have to question the premise of the question. Has anyone scientifically demonstrated that an orgasm has any effect on testosterone levels? Secondly, if so, has anyone demonstrated that elevated testosterone levels are necessary for PE?

In my opinion, orgasm or not, your testosterone levels are either healthy or not and it has nothing to do with having had an orgasm.

Also in my opinion, "elevated" testosterone levels do not aid PE,as bodybuilders on steroids do not experience hypertrophy of the penis.

So I believe, do what ever you feel comfortable with, and there is no need to feel sexually frustrated because you are doing PE. They proved years ago that having sex the night before "the big game" did not improve athletic performance either!

titanium

bona bona
03-19-2001, 03:25 PM
there are two opposing schools of thought on this and the greater issue.

I have read some western culture info that suggests the more you use it the better it works, and the eastern approach that ejaculations should be saved to keep a balanced male hormonal system. I personally hope the western approach is the correct one because according to traditional chinese philosophy, at my age I should only ejacuate every ten days if I want to maintain a healthy balacne.

my feeling is, if you have good health and nutrition, the more frequently you ejaculate the better your system will work, the only exception being, if you trying to get you sperm count up for conception reasons.

bb

03-19-2001, 04:20 PM
Titanium30, I'll apologize for not being able to cite references up front on this one, but I have seen it in print and graph form many times-test levels tend to plummet significantly after masturbation. How long? I don't know and have never heard of a follow up test hours later. I have mentioned the benefit of higher testosterone levels to someone on this board with respect to P.E. and that may be what this individual is asking about. As far as growth or "anabolic" effects on the penis, it's probably weak speculation, but erections are (to me) easier to achieve and maintain without masturbating. I assume this is due at least in part to tesosterone levels. groaboa628

03-19-2001, 05:38 PM
Yes, I also remember reading somewhere that testosterone levels significantly decrease after ejaculation... although only temporarily... a healthy person's testosterone levels will be restored after about 4 hours. That's what I was basing my question on.

I wasn't sure if the decreased levels were bad for PE. If testosterone plays no role in helping to rebuild tissue or the microtears associated with PE, then I guess it doesn't matter.

I was mainly curious to see if most of the guys on here (especially those who've made good gains) end their sessions with an orgasm or not.

03-19-2001, 11:57 PM
its my strong opinion that ejaculation dose in FACT decrease testostorone levels...

i was an amature boxer a few years back, and my coach trained a few pros during his time... he said boxing coaches all the way back since rocky marciano instructed their boxers not to enguage in sex, or masterbation during training, and esp. a few weeks prior to a fight... this is till a common pratice today BTW...

reason being, sports medicine doctors found that, 1. ejaculation decreased testorone levels, and 2. coaches found that abstanance from sex coupled with the increased testestorone levels made boxers more agressive and driven during fights and training...

03-20-2001, 10:42 AM
Suppose you're penis was already the size you wanted it to be, there is a benefit to masturbation and decreased testosterone levels, it relaxes you, you don't always want to be on hyperdrive mode, sometimes one just wants to chill and relax, after all the stereotype that men are all sex machines is not true for all of us, besides there's nothing better than having a good masturbation or love making session. That being said I believe it is easier and perhaps more effective to jelq when you don't overdo masturbation, although this is in no way proven. I guess until we know for sure what are the factors that physiologicaly contribute to penis growth we'll just have to stick with what we supposedly know, I think is better to lay off too much masturbation in order to help PE, especially jelquing, but like I said nobody knows how this works mainly because scientists have refused to look at possible ways in which the penis can be enlarged, and this is due to the belief in our society that sex is dirty and bad, I mean don't get me wrong I don't like the idea of a 12 year old having sex with a 60 year old, but I think our society does have issues with sexuality, however these cannot be forced they have to resolve themselves overtime.

Hightailjoe
03-21-2001, 05:52 PM
I just turned 18 and HAVE to wack off the rest of the way. I've made gains in length, despie doing so.
The question the guy above posted though was if testosterone levels affecte PE Growth, not if testostorone levels dropped after ejaculation. ITs a tough call, testosterone helps with muscle growth, but the penis is diff I think....YOur balls thoguh I think have to keep up with the demand and prob produce enough....I dont know....Im gonna go jelq...