Do urologists support PE?

I was just wondering if urologists approve PE like the jelk, the weights and the stretching? Has anybody here ever consultated a urologist about these methods and if so what did the doctor say?

[Big Al]

I can honestly say that most urologists don't even realize that these exercises exist. Most doctors would not approve of ANYTHING whether it worked or not unless it was "clinically tested" (for fear of possible litigations and peer disapproval).

One thing though- phalloplasticians prescribe weight hanging as a post surgical requirement for penile extensions.

Think about this (and it's only speculation). If the world heard about how effective PE really is, who do you think would be HURT by it the most?

If none of this has ever been approved then how do we know if there are any adverse, long term effects? I am just saying that if urologists dissapprove then why? Is there a specific reason? Obviously, the medical community generally approves of surgical enhancement so why wouldn't they approve of something seeminly less invasive like PE? So basically all of this stuff is just trial and error with no true medical support?

I just don't understand why it has to be approved by urologists. It is just a hobby. If it doesn't do any good, it wouldn't cause any harm if one does it with caution. It is just like jogging. If you like to do it, it's fine. Otherwise, nobody would say what you should do. Am I right?

I think the medical profession is deliberately ignorant of PE, for two reasons namely. Firstly, the medical proffession started the maxim that 'its what you do with it that counts' to dispel myths that size does matter. If the medical proffession were indeed aware of PE, then by endorsing and encouraging it they would in some way be suggesting that size does in fact matter.

Secondly, medics have no desire to encourage a practise that is largely untested, and therefore potentially dangerous. How many doctors, for example, endorse hardcore bodybuilding?

Just my 2 cents...

All I am saying is that urologist haven't approved it. I am sure that urologist would never encourage PE but it stands to reason that if it was safe, they would tell you that its OK to do it. Like hard core body building. Sure a doctor is not going to encourage you to do it but they will tell you that its OK for you to do it. My point is that who knows if this stuff is at all detrimental in the long run? I dont know. Nobody here is an expert. Only urologists are. They know far more than we do. I would like to see what their stance on PE is and why they take the stance that they do.

[Bib]

Jeremy,

There is a doctor who has a pay PE web site. It was listed here several months ago. I went to his front page but did not go into what he offered.

BA is correct in the fact that the lig butchers recommend hanging weights after surgery. In fact, the patients must hang weights or the ligs reattach. What they do not say is you can get good gains without the surgery. Just hang weights.

But the truth is, this is not without risk. Guys have had injuries from time to time. One fairly serious reported on this board. If you decide to try it, remember this and be careful.

Bigger

What kind of seriuos injury did that guy report?

Jeremy,

We had a urologist posting here for some time last year. He supported it all. He did say that gains depend on how flexible your penile ligiment is. Some guys'ligs are looser than others and they are better able to gain.

Take care,

Ant

so far as i know, there has never been a serious, objective / scientific study done on the pros and cons of pe, save for surgery and side notes suggesting temporary gains in thickness when using pumps to treat impotence. i've searched the internet far and wide. i don't think that any reputable doctor would recommend aggressive attempts to alter one's body structure unless the procedures had been studied quite thoroughly.

hopefully, someone in the research field will get a clue that a number of men are attempting pe and will research the benefits and ill effects. i know i'd feel more comfortable with this endeavor with some solid, research-based literature backing me.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that study. There are two basic problems. First, a researcher isn't going to get a Nobel prize doing research on PE - it would be considered a frivolous subject, particularly since, as we all know, size doesn't matter.

But the real problem is that a small percentage of men who do PE are gonna injure themselves, some permanently. And no matter what kind of informed consent you get from your test subjects, a good lawyer would hang the doctor out to dry, particularly if the whole study was being done for a frivolous purpose (see above).

For those reasons, I don't think you are ever going to see an objective, impartial, reliable study on PE.

[Sizemeister]

This is a copy of the thread that Ant was referring to. I saved it a long time ago because I knew it would come up again.

www.geocities.com/pefaq/r...s/301.html (http://www.geocities.com/pefaq/routines/301.html)

I agree with what these guys have already said. There will never be a conclusive scientific study done on PE because it would be considered a waste. Therefore no "urologist" would ever approve of it because it hasn't been extensively researched by "medical professionals" (which if you ask my opinion I would trust the guys on this board who have been doing this for years over some so-called professionial).

PE is just like bodybuilding or anything else you do to your body. If you over do it, you will get hurt. You have to have common sense to perform PE, or else you need to find another hobby.

Size

Our society has sexual taboos, and this is not news. It's a known fact. A doctor would not risk his profession by doing PE research. Who would pay him to do it? How would he look in front of his colleagues? What kind of professional future could he look forward to? Would he be the clown of the medical community? The fact of the matter is that it will take some time for PE to be recognized and practiced. Just like it took time for doctors to start openly endorsing exercise and meditation and acupuncture and yoga or the power of a positive attitude on your health. My friend if you wait for doctors to endorse PE before you give it a shot,then you may die before you ever try it. Take my word for it PE has potential risks if you are overzealous, but if you use common sense and are cautious then you should be fine. However, we guarantee nothing, nor do we feel the need to prove that PE works, we know it does, we've seen it, we've felt it in our hands and confirmed it with rulers. That said, good luck and peace be with you. Oh, and another thing with all due respect "There are a lot of things that doctors do not know".

[Big Al]

Like in bodybuilding, PE has it's "armchair experts". I compare these "experts" to the pencilneck gurus that conduct studies on rats, pregnant women, untrained subjects, etc. and try to tell guys like me who have been successfully lifting for years that we should do things their way.

I have nothing against doctors and other highly formally educated people... education is great- but it's no substitute for experience. I'd rather listen to someone like BIB who may or may not have a college degree but who has added close to 5 inches in length, than to some armchair expert who has never done any PE himself but claims that it won't work because there hasn't been a study done on it.

[Bigeight]

Does this guy have some validity to his statements? Those of you who have gains, do your nuts hang all the time or does it stay close to your body? I agree with BA that experience is the key so that's why I'm asking those of you like BA, BIB and Size as well as others who have gained in size. Just looking for words of encouragement because I've gotten thicker and I believe I can see signs of new length but I haven't measured to see because I don't want to be disappointed. The main reason I am asking is because my nuts sometimes hang and sometimes it doesn't. Give me some insight to this issue.