To Jizz- about Chest-shoulders

HI Jizz

Listen, I wanted to build on what you said earlier, (Before the board went down.)

You told me to not do too much shoulder work as it might slow down progress.

I had never heard that before. What do you mean by this?

Currently, I LOVE doing shoulders.
Because it is such a great muscle to develope and everyone can notice them.

Furthermore, as Arnold says, they can be seen from any angle: Front, Back, side.

So I am curious to why you said what you did.

Talk to ya soon
Cal Man

basically because the delts are used secondarily in so many exercises that i think too much direct delt work is overtraining which would begin to stagnate your other lifts esp exercises for chest. This applies mainly to strength. I always get best strength for chest when cutting back on delts.

But if you love doing delts, do let me talk you out of doing them. Big back with big wide shoulders are the #1 thing to make you look big. I adocate cutting back on shoulder thru most of the year and every once in awhile, shock them with a delt specialization program for 3-4 weeks where you dramatically increase volume for delts.

Hey Jizz

Thanks for the post.
I think I'll continue to do shoulders as long as I am getting good results.

As far as chest: Well, I am going to have to hit the chest harder. I think my chest responds slower than other parts of my body.
You said that it'd be better if I did 15-18 sets for the chest during a chest workout.

How do you manage this? Normally after my 9-11 sets, my chest is very tired, and I'd have to lower the weight by a good amount!

Is that OK?
Some say you shouldn't work with too much of a lower weight.
But I don't see how you could get around that as you do more and more sets.

Anyway, any advice is welcome.
Thanks
Cal

Just remember to change up things on your delts every once in awhile.

For size, more volume is usually better than higher weights with lower reps and sets.

You shouldn't concern yourself too much with how much weight you do on secondary chest exercises such as flys, dips, cable crossovers----so dropping weight isn't a big deal. But don't drop too much weight when doing bench and incline bench. So do them before secondary exercises.

Hope this answers your questions.

Hey...not to butt in but...

You might want to look into rotator cuff training too. These are the muscles that help stabilize your shoulders. I alway mean to do some rotator exercises but never get around to them. I'll start tomorrow, yup...

Good luck,
SMF