oh fuck!!!!please no

[dude1]

i think my symptoms are getting worse. the soreness i described earlier now feels more like numbness and it seems to be spreading through my whole dick. i'm having troubles getting it up and i swear to god it seems to be retracting into my body. what have i done to myself. am i going impotent? please no! at one point i think the head may have been a little cold and when i touched it it left a slight white imprint. should i run to the emergency room, man my life's over if my dick isn't working anymore! and what can they do for me anyway. what do i tell them...oh yeah i hung to much weight from my penis on monday. fuuuuuck!

[Bib]

Dude,

If you think you need to go to the emergency room, then by all means go.

The syptoms you describe sound like a loss of blood flow. Several days after your last PE session, this problem should not just pop up. It could be that you have a hernia or some other problem limiting flow. It would not hurt to have it checked.

Keep us informed.

Bigger

[WillB7]

Dude,

Please calm down.

Now it seems that your dick needs immediate medical attention.
Don't put it off, go see a doctor asap. If something's dammaged he will help you fix it. If it's nothing to worry about, he will help you stop worrying .
Go ahead and do it, don't be embarrassed, medical personnel are used yo see all kinds of things, they are there to help you.

[romanntiko]

Give it three days.... If in three days there is no improvement. Go to the doctor's office. Not emergency room.

~R~

[da mack2]

I would go to the doctor immediately, having those problems with your dick might be serious, and it might be nothing, but you wanna be on the safe side regarding your member. Good luck.

[WillB7]

Romanntiko,

dude reported numbness, cold feeling and other symptoms. The symptoms are getting worse and there's no point in wating for them to worsen to the point where irreversible damage occurs.



dude,

Don't wate, get help.

[turbo]

I would go see a doctor if I were you, that is a reaon I dont belive in hanging it's not safe...some ppl get away with it and some dont.

[WillB7]

turbo,

The risk of injury exists with all forms of PE. If you are careful and reasonably follow the instructios, advice and commom sense, then you will not be injured. Hanging involves the use of equipment that's why there is a greater cahnce of injury but only if you don't use it properly. One of the reasons I don't hang is that I am not ready yet to invest the time and energy to study the issue thoroughly and do it RIGHT. I believe you can gain safely by hanging if you do it right.


dude,

please keep us posted. Thanks

[Bib]

turbo,

>that is a reaon I dont belive in hanging it's not safe...some ppl get away with it and some dont. <

I have been on the various boards since June '98. I read all the posts dating back to the inception of the first board in '97.

First, there has never been a permanent injury reported due to any form of PE. This is with thousands of guys coming through the boards. Now, there may have been a permanent injury, and the guy simply did not return to tell us about it. But, knock on wood, none yet.

Forgecrank had an injury which required surgery while hanging with a loop device. He also had a preexisting bend in his penis which may have been peyronies. The tunica tore at the bend. He reported a full recovery.

Of the minor injuries, the overwhelming majority have come from manual exercises. Either some form of squeezes or jelqing. Many times more reports from the pressure exercises.

Dudes problem could have come from either the pumping, jelqing, hanging, or a pre-existing condition. As WillB said, injuries can occur from any type of PE. Proper warmup and attention to detail is critical for safe PE.

Bigger

[dude1]

i never went to the e.r. today it seems that the slight coldness and loss of color in the head is gone. the pain in the groin is basically gone but i still feel a slight numbness in the base and shaft. my dick feels warm enough and i've been hot wrapping it and taking ibuprofon. i was able to get an erection this morning, a half assed one, but fairly hard...i didn't touch it much to see if it would stay hard because i'm really trying to rest completely. i can't really tell if the numbness is actually due to lack of circulation or possibly due to whatever overstressing i may have done to ligs etc., i don't really understand how all that works. i really did freak out last night though and thanks for the replies guys. if i'm not fully better within 2 more days of rest i'm definitely going to the doctor, hopefully everything will turn out alright. i really am trying to understand why there's been such a strange chronology of events. i hung on monday, didn't feel the pain and soreness in the groin till about wed., then last night, saturday these other more serious complications.

[turbo]

I understand that there can be injury from PE period, but some guys here are hanging 20-30lbs of there penis which to me seems outragous. Its just to much weight and to much pressure on the penis so I can see why someone like the original poster may have nerve problems now, lets hope he doesent but hes desrciption sounds bad. I have been visiting these boards now for a few months but I just registered not too long ago, so I know that most of you are more experienced and no more than I do on this subject but hanging to me is a big NO NO. And he did say that he was hanging.

[dude1]

to be honest i still am kind of freaked out. what do i tell the folks at the er...do i have to tell them exactly what i did or could i just tell them oh yeah i was jelquing...it improves circulation supposedly. the thing is that the numbness does worry me. i'm relating numbness to no feeling resulting in impotence. i really don't understand what they could do for me right now. it's not like it's not touch sensitive, i can feel my touch on it. the only way to describe it is kind of like a stressing or numbness of the inner part of the penis...kind of like when your foot might fall asleep for a second. but i'm pretty sure i'm not feeling the pins and needles effect like i did at one point last night. is this possibly just sounding like really overstressed ligs guys? i hope so.

[fat8]

I think you should not waste your time at the ER, who works at the ER anyway other than interns and wanta be doctors. GO TO A UROLOGIST in other words a dick doctor...NOW ..this week...

[Bib]

dude1,

This is different.

>i never went to the e.r. today it seems that the slight coldness and loss of color in the head is gone. the pain in the groin is basically gone but i still feel a slight numbness in the base and shaft. my dick feels warm enough and i've been hot wrapping it and taking ibuprofon. i was able to get an erection this morning, a half assed one, but fairly hard.<

If you can get an erection, then you are proabaly fine. It is hard to hard ot come to a definite conclusion, and if you feel you need to, go to the ER.

>i can't really tell if the numbness is actually due to lack of circulation or possibly due to whatever overstressing i may have done to ligs etc., i don't really understand how all that works. <

Many guys have reported periods of numbness from overwork. I had several of them. The numbness probalby would not have anything to do with the ligs. If you can get an erection, there is not a lot of chance anything is wrong with your circulation. You may have bruised nerves. Did you jelq or hang too close to the head?

It is tough to tell about though. If the numbness started five days after the session, it could be something else besides PE. That is weird. Usually numbness occurs the same day as the workout, and is over within a couple of days.

turbo,

>I understand that there can be injury from PE period, but some guys here are hanging 20-30lbs of there penis which to me seems outragous. <

In some situations, it can be. Many guys exert much more force than that with manual exercises. The bigger problem is, how would you know?

>Its just to much weight and to much pressure on the penis so I can see why someone like the original poster may have nerve problems now, lets hope he doesent but hes desrciption sounds bad. <

So far, no one has ever reported sensitivity not coming back. With proper rest, numbness goes away within a few days. His problem is, the numbness occured several days after the work.

>I have been visiting these boards now for a few months but I just registered not too long ago, so I know that most of you are more experienced and no more than I do on this subject but hanging to me is a big NO NO. And he did say that he was hanging. <

Right, but my point was and is, hanging has proven to be no more or no less risky than any other form of PE. Even for the guys hanging a lot of weight. Nobody should ever take any risks that they are not comfortable with. Each individual is most informed about his own personal situation. It is all part of the risk/reward relationship.

Bigger

[dude1]

thanks for your replies again.
i'm wondering if the numbness could ahve come later because i masturbated daily after that work session on monday. do you think the masturbation could have aggravated an initial injury and that's why i'm hurting more now? i really don't know whether to go to the er or not. i feel like if i go there i'm going to have to explain my situaution, like pe excercises which i'm really not looking forward to at all, they're not gonna cut me any slack they're just going to be like well it's obvious you've damaged yourself blah blah blah, what were you thinking etc etc, no sympathy. bib what do you think? i respect your opinion since i've known you from the old board and know you're a veteran of all this. thanks. if it were nerve damage, does that get better? i really want to be able to have kids in the future.

[Bib]

dude1,

>i'm wondering if the numbness could ahve come later because i masturbated daily after that work session on monday. <

Man, this gets stranger and stranger. You have masturbated daily after the session on Monday? And it has gotten worse? In my experience, when I had a problem, it was evident during or immediately after a session. Not even a day or two later. Then, it might take 1-4 days to heal completely. None of my problems ever got worse with rest.

>do you think the masturbation could have aggravated an initial injury and that's why i'm hurting more now?<

I suppose anything is possible, but I would not think a normal erection and masturbation would make anything worse. Could there have been anything after the session to cause a problem? What about the vein on the side of the scrotum? Is it still there? Do you have any pain when you palpate inside the scrotum? You originally said the discomfort was greatest when sitting. Is that still the case? Try palpating within the scrotum while sitting.

>i really don't know whether to go to the er or not. i feel like if i go there i'm going to have to explain my situaution, like pe excercises which i'm really not looking forward to at all, they're not gonna cut me any slack they're just going to be like well it's obvious you've damaged yourself blah blah blah, what were you thinking etc etc, no sympathy. <

No, they really will not care. You will be nervous and maybe embarrassed, but they have seen it all. If you think it is the thing to do, then do it.

>if it were nerve damage, does that get better? i really want to be able to have kids in the future. <

If you have been mastubating since Monday, I don't think you will have to worry about kids. It does not sound like nerve damage. Not if you can get erections. As I said, if you have a lack of sensitivity, it will come back. But you should probably rest completely (no masturbation) so that you can see the progress.

Bigger

[mistered]

But i do know a little about what i read here on the forums.
It seems the last few injuries i remember reading about were the result of stupidity; did i say that? Sorry, maybe bad judgement would be a better word.
Anyway, it seems people have this tendancy to allow themselves to be overcome by too much confidence and taking short cuts while neglecting to follow protocals that would help keep them injury free.

Dude1; i felt so sorry about your situation from the get-go. Your 2and1/2 panic attacks shows me how important your henry is to you. Yet, if your henry is so important, why just rudely throw him out in the middle of the freeway?
I hope next time you come off of a hiatus you do not forget your panic attacks and how valuable you saw henry was to you.

It seems you did it all backwards when you restarted your hanging.
Ie:>i had been on a PE hiatus of about 3 or 4 months AND THEN i came back into it FULL FORCE< >i filled the gallon of water up ALL the way, "i USED to do...LESS than full..."<
>...i've always been careful not to push it with hanging and moved up real SLOW...<

You mentioned: I swear to God it seems to be retracting into my body. Dude; if i was henry and had just gotten ran over by a big semi-truck and lived to tell about it, i'd run and hide from you too.lol
Then you ask: "Should i RUN to the emergency room"? I don't think so Dude. If you do go, please, for henry's sake, walk; you've done enough damage to that poor helpless fella for one life time.lol

I know how serious this all has been to you, and i also know that henry can be more mentally stable then we are at times,lol but i also know that henry is built much better than a Timeex watch and he can recover from almost anything.
You will in all probability be okay, and if not you will still be okay.

Please excuse the humor; i thought a laugh (if it doesn't hurt) may do you good.

Dude1, you're alright; meaning you're okay in my book and i like you as a fellow PE'er and board member.

Try not to panic next time; the tension just makes it worse and more lingering. I wish you the best and i hope you do not have to see a doctor.
But if you do don't be ashamed of doing anything that would fall into the context of bettering yourself.
Boldly throw your fear into the freeway and be up front with the doctor. You'll feel much better afterwards.
To have nothing to hide equals freedom and peace of mind. Good luck and keep us informed.

[dude1]

seriously. i'm going to completely rest up and see what happens.
hopefully i'll still get my morning woody and know that i'm not screwed just yet. but yeah should i come out of this ok i've definitely learned my lesson. if and when i ever do start up pe again, i'll be slower and more cautious than ever. for now i'll be thankful if i come out of this with my dick working alright.

[biggerandbetter]

Hey dude1,

I've been there. I just leave it alone for 3 days or so,
maybe take a little Lysine for tissue repair, and pray
it's gonna be ok. The body is an amazing thing, it
can heal.

And then get back to PE, just not so hard core.

[mistered]

Hey Dude1; What was your user name on the old forum? When were you there?

[NotEnough]

Well, I certainly hope your problem resolves. As far as doctors go, don't sweat it. Just tell them it was rough sex or masturbation. Same difference.

As far as nerve damage goes... let that puppy rest. It sounds like you may just be progressively aggravating the nerve. Maybe did some initial damage with PE and made it worse by masturbating frequently. Anyway, good luck and keep everyone posted.

[Nortical]

If you go to the doctor I really think you should tell the truth about what you have done. The doctor needs all the information he can get.

Who gives a damn about 1 embarassing hour when it could save the rest of your life?!

You will probably be ok though, but if you go see the doctor be honest. It's your dick. Your life.

Norti

[aPE]

Please keep us informed, and succes!!

[NotEnough]

Nortical, I understand your concern and I certainly do not want to downplay the importance of communicating the full extent of any injury. That said, some simply will NOT go for fear of embarasment. My last girlfriend is a nurse and a guy friend called her in a panic after injuring himself during rough sex. She told him in no uncertain terms to go to the emergency room. He did not go! Stupid, ignorant, etc? You bet. Just an example of some people shame.

My point is if a person is hesitant because they are afraid to tell a doctor about PE... no problem. Heck if you break your arm falling down stairs and you tell the doctor you fell off a ladder what is the difference? Point is go to a doctor if you are concerned... period.

[mistered]

I understand both schools of thought in reference to advice given thru-out this thread and in stating so i wish to say the following:

Why is it that we feel or think we have to cower down in fear thinking about what someone else may or may not think about us.

Can change come about if we just continue supporting someones fear of change?
Imo it seems more disrespectful to enable someone in their fear instead of challenging and supporting them in personal growth.
And it seems if someone chooses to be fearful they probably can do it on their own very easily. And on the other hand it may take a little prodding from some caring behind the scenes friend to help someone across that threshhold to betterment.

Will someone please explain to me why PE is bad and something to be ashamed of.
If i was to believe that PE is bad and naughty and i did it anyway, wouldn't i in some small way on the inside feel like a pervert or something of the sort?
And if someone else (maybe not wanting to offend me or in their mind attempt to help me) was to simply agree with me that PE is bad and naughty, wouldn't they also be telling me (in some small way) that i am a pervert?
Imo, That would be one negative giving power to another negative. Again, imo i don't see how that would be supportive of PE Forums, PE'ers or the advancement of PE in general.

We just covered an area over in misc (thread:"Important: Everyone Read") that spoke of a time not too long ago that the medical profession looked down on weight lifting and now it's mandatory in certain applications.
Or when certain churches condemned musical instruments saying they were of the devil and players could end up in hell.
Now pianoes and many other types of musical instruments abound in all churches as far as i know.

I for one am appreciative of those bold and fearless people of yesteryear who have brought about changes that i today am able to openly (not in the closet with the lights out) enjoy the rewards of.

If we can not be honest with our doctor, who can we be honest with?
Honesty in most cases is the honorable thing to do.

[im4tunate2]

MisterEd - Very well put. I agree with you whole heartedly. Although I do not go around broadcasting the fact that I PE, I am not in the least bit ashamed of the fact that I do, and wouldn't hesitate to share the subject with anyone who might question me. Your message was inspiring. I may go out and have a new T-Shirt designed to wear to work, "PE PROUD". IM4

[mistered]

Thanks Im4... I agree with you also. It is wise to choose who you do tell.

[tuffram]

dude1,

This subject may be embarrassing for you to tell the ER doc or staff, but I doubt they will be extremely shock or surprized. Trust me they see all sorts of weird-ass freaky shit. Not to downplay your injury, but your mishap dosen't hold a candle to some of the stuff I have heard from ER staff involving such things as fruits/vegitables, Guys & vacuum cleaner hoses, vibrating pager extractions, etc. So if you need to seek medical attention, then do so.

[UberGoober]

Hey, the more it's broadcasted, the more that do it, and the bigger their dicks get.

:) I'm cool being bigger than average and keeping that average the same :)

[mistered]

No matter the future outcome of PE, even if the entire population did PE, there will always be different sizes and varying gains.
I wonder if in the beginings of higher education if some thought: "No to higher education institutions; i want to be smarter than most".
Might sound good but imo may not be practical in the sense of reality.
Oh, to each our own.

Btw; when PE becomes mainstream, still most people will not incorporate it into their personal lives.

[Dingo698]

The doctor or urologist or whatever you choose to see, he isn't somebody you know is it? Most likely not, confidentiality is a major interest in the doctor and patients well-being. It's not as if anybody but yourself needs to know about your circumstance.

Sure, rest for a couple of days may be all you need but it may prove to be something different. Although you don't really know your situation medically as yet, if you really have damaged yourself to the point of medication or surgery or anything that drastic. But even so, it could be quite likely that the Doc would just advise you to get some rest with no sex or pe at all. And I'm sure you can handle that for a couple of days... Or... weeks?! Aaaaggh!! Now that's a frightening thought, but even more frightening if you don't get it checked out!

On another note, one of the best ways to heal your cock would be to get a erection! Yes! This is true, increased blood flow, and the blood will speed up your healing, although I believe that it is best to obtain an erection without touching yourself.

Ie. get an erection using your mind, and control it and try to maintain it as long as possible, most of the 'better' healing will be done in your sleep with your nocturnal erections.

[tarkan]

Has anyone heard from dude1 since his last post in this thread?

dude1... if you're still out there, can you please post an update for us?

[feeling-inadequate]

my (newbie) opinion on the matter: its worth the 30 minutes of embarassment in front of a strange doctor and strange nurse at the ER than a lifetime of erectile dysfunction.
kinda similar story: was putting on some pajama bottoms (karate uniform pants, comfy!) one night, looked down, and OMG WTF, i Have THREE balls! immediatelly drove myself to the emergency room, on the way there (speeding the entire time, i hope thats not a cop, don't pull me over!) think over what it could possibly be (had not done any PE at this point in my life), got there, was checking in, and DING, i think its a hernia. get put in a room, doc comes in, real considerate considering i just found a frigging extra lump in my sack, checks me out, yup, its a hernia, you should get that fixed, its currently reducible (aka, lay down on your back while i stuff your intestine loop back into your body, not a pleasent sensation), but you need surgery soon, got it resolved within 2 weeks, and got a month of paid time off from work to recover. (and after the surgery my balls swelled up to bigger than a baseball, was fucking hard to waddle to the bathroom without pulling on the stitches or squeezing my sack)

[ls1]

Originally posted by feeling-inadequate
my (newbie) opinion on the matter: its worth the 30 minutes of embarassment in front of a strange doctor and strange nurse at the ER than a lifetime of erectile dysfunction.
kinda similar story: was putting on some pajama bottoms (karate uniform pants, comfy!) one night, looked down, and OMG WTF, i Have THREE balls! immediatelly drove myself to the emergency room, on the way there (speeding the entire time, i hope thats not a cop, don't pull me over!) think over what it could possibly be (had not done any PE at this point in my life), got there, was checking in, and DING, i think its a hernia. get put in a room, doc comes in, real considerate considering i just found a frigging extra lump in my sack, checks me out, yup, its a hernia, you should get that fixed, its currently reducible (aka, lay down on your back while i stuff your intestine loop back into your body, not a pleasent sensation), but you need surgery soon, got it resolved within 2 weeks, and got a month of paid time off from work to recover. (and after the surgery my balls swelled up to bigger than a baseball, was fucking hard to waddle to the bathroom without pulling on the stitches or squeezing my sack)


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