Big Al - Penis-Health - Penile Secrets - Penis Developmnt - Etc

[neo]

I am new to PE and im interested to know which program is best given that you dont have too much extra time to spare for PE. I have been browsing different sites and have learned that some advocate certain sites only because they are somehow related to the owner.

Mostly, ppl from this forum recommend Big Al's site.. only to find out that he is one of the administrators of the forum. (BA, peace, i have nothing against you)

penisreviews.com gives a #1 rating to penis-health.com ( gave a #17 rating to Big Al's site) so i checked penis-health.com. I was impressed by the data but being a veteran internet person, i checked the Domain owner at networksolutions.com and what do you know, the owner of penisreview.com is also the owner of penis-health.com -- sigh!

Are the owner of the power-jelq device as well as the Bib Hanger administrators of this forum as well? I know there is nothing wrong if they are but the statement "conflict of interest" just keeps bouncing back on my mind.

I have nothing against any of those whom i mentioned so i hope no one gets offended with my post. I am still looking for a nice PE program and if there is anyone here who can suggest a site whom he isnt related to the owner, then pls do so as i want your objective, unbiased opinion. Thanks.

other sites which they say are good are:

penilesecrets.com
penisdevelopment.com

any truth to this?

[Sizemeister]

My honest answer to your question is... you don't need to pay anything for PE! All the information that you'll ever need is right here on this forum.

On the history of this forum: this forum, in it's beginnings at Tom Hubbard's page, IS the beginning of natural PE on the internet for the most part. Everything you find here is free and comes years of hard work and ingenuity of past and present members. I personally don't advocate paying for PE at all, unless you're the kind of person who needs a "trainer". If you look around the reviews section there are other products getting positive reviews as well. The reason why Big Al's site gets the highest marks around here has nothing to do with him being an adminstrator here. It's the best because of the uniqueness of the exercises, the low price, and the customer service. I dare you to find the instant customer support that you get with his program. His site and a couple others (the ones that have been around the longest, big-penis and brandon reece come to mind) have gotten mixed reviews, and most of the rest just have infomation they ripped off from this forum, or they're selling jelq and calling it something else.

But I'm not going any further with this discussion, since all the info you need is right here a this forum. You don't need to pay anything.

[fow1]

I agree with Sizemeisters post 100%. Everything you need is here. I have been a member of this forum or forums of its' origin for 2 years and since Big Al took over, I have not seen any direct promotion of his site other than the banner at the top. I have never seen anything but positive comments from fellow members who have used his program.

Enough said except............be sure to read Sizemeisters "PE Glossary & FAQ" in the "FAQ for Newbies" section.

Good Luck in whatever you try.

[soyelmocano]

My suggestion is this. If you don't like Big Al's affilitation with this site, don't buy his program. Oh, no one is making you read this free site either.
I could go on, but ...

[dino775]

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If you knew the history of this board you wouldn't even have to question the integrity of Big Al or Bib. Bib used to be just a member than a moderator than co-admin and he used to give away the plans for the first bib hanger and help you use it for nothing and than when he invented the new hanger everybody begged him to sell it, so he did and it has gotten great reviews from the users. Big Al is the only guy that's selling a program that is excellent and give links on his forum to free jelqing sites and you don't have to be a member of his program to get all the free stuff. I'm a moderator and have never bought Al's program or a bib hanger, Al gave me his program when I became a moderator and I tell you I wish I had bought it when I first started it would have saved me months of learning. And the power Jelq has nothing to do with this site, just a link, and the owner does post here from time to time. So a little advice don't insult BA or Bib they are very respected on this board by all because they earned it.

Dino

[Big Al]

Thanks for the kudos, guys :)

One thing that a lot of the newer guys don't know is that I was ASKED to be a mod for the PE Forums over two years ago by the site's then owner, "SciMan". In the spirit of keeping this a free forum, I have done my best to refrain from pushing my site on anyone.

[twatteaser]

Gentlemen!
Relax a bit here. The person posting is brand new, a skeptic. He may seem like he was attacking Big Al and Bib, but he just had some questions. I mean who is not skeptical about this area when you forst see it? I mean did you swallow this 100% the first time you saw it? Most likely not! Anyhow, the internet is rife with fruad and charlatans. Look at how the owner of the dick review site also owns his own pe site.

I mean this is a sensitive area in that not only is this a touchy subject but then to fill ripped off by having some one take your money makes it worse. I mean don't we all assume that this is a great place. I know Big Al never pushes his site on anyone and Bib is always the most helpful person I have met on either site. Always listening to some (mine) insane questions. Replying quickly and accurately.

The answer is this is one of the two best places on the net for free info. So use it or lose it. I felt the same way at first. But now I know the truth. Thanks, and play fair and nice! TT

[Biguli]

As a Pe'er that has been into Pe for about six months now, has subscribed to a Pe pay site, is a member of this board, has registered a real Pe gain, is not a moderator, has no Pe equipment to sell, and has no other web site or board to advertise, I can give you my objective, unbiased opinion about which site you should subcribe to.
None. Size is right.
EVERYTHING on this FREE Pe board is on the pay site I subscribed to (Penile Secrets) when I first started looking for Pe information. Additionally, there are a few things I learned here that was/is not on Penile Secrets. Exercise tweaks, what works and what doesn't, which supps. I should take for Pe and general health, etc. I've lurked elswhere, but there are not too many sites as informative and casual as PE FORUMS. The very nature of this site, since it was an EZboard, has been informative, respectful, and communally protective of it's mature, but casual dialogue. For example, they are VERY wary of minors posting, and while It's not yet illegal (?) for minors to post, I like the fact that the moderators tread lightly on this subject because of its legally disastrous potential for this free site should some adolescent accidentally injure himself with knowledge gained here.
This forum is a community. You feel that way when you give and recieve posts. The pay sites don't have that sense of community. You say you're an internet veteran, so you've done you're homework in regards to site research. Well, the guys here are Penile Enhancement veterans. The moderators have been where you are, and where you're trying to get to; why not not save yourself some money and time; learn from the Pe sages here.
Another thing I like about the moderators here is that they know a lot, but are always looking to learn something new. They NEVER seem jaded or aggrivated at your questions. (even though they've probably read the same question a thousand times.)That alone makes you feel like you have something to contribute once you get comfortable here.
That's my objective, unbiased, opinion.

[mistered]

Well spoken!