Vinarol

[mushmouth]

Has anyone tried this pill yet? A quote from the literature

"Vinarol is the new fast acting all natural formula that has been developed to help increase sexual desire and enhance the sexual experience for both men and women.

In recent independant double cross over placebo controlled studies conducted at the Southwest Institute of Neural Research, the 100% all-natural herbal product, known as Vinarol (VASX) was shown to:

a) Provide prolonged and firmer erection time, as reported among 98.7% of all the male study participants.

b) Among the females in the study, 90% reported increased sensitivity during stimulation both visual and physical.

c) The increase on blood flow to the genetalia was seen throughout all age groups and experienced by both sexes.

d) The time for activation was 40-60 minutes, when taken as directed.

e) The effects are long lasting, up to 6 to 8.3 hours

f) Refractory time (recovery time to restore and erection) was reduced to 10 minutes or virtually no delay at all.

Now I want to make sure that I dont make this sound like an ad.

I have tried a few pills that were supposed to boost sex drive, give firmer erection, etc...and I can honestly none have really left me with the impression that they really have powerful results...to put it another way, I have never reordered anything.

After hearing the radio commercial for Vinarol over and over I broke down and called.

The ad didnt give much info..just claims - which come a dime a dozen...so when I called to order I was a bit surprised....this stuff isnt cheap. Which may be atestament to its quality. I ordered the smallest quanitity - 7 pills for $49.95....yeah I know, I may be crazy...the order sizes sounded a bit wierd to me.
7 pills - $49.95
14 pills - $94.95
21 pills - $143.95

So anyways I went ahead and placed the order...fast forward....I get them in the mail and took one on an occasion where I knew I would be having sex.

Right from the start I knew it had an effect on me. Normally I have a bit of a hard time maintaining an erection...With stimulation I get one...but after the stimulation ceases the erection starts to go away...usually within seconds...with Vinarol that did not happen..in fact my partner left the room, and when she came back I was still almost fully erect...to which she commented, were you touching yourself.....she wouldnt believe that I wasent :)

Also, I have to work to control ejaculation...like during oral and manual manipulation by her, I cant take constant stimulation for more then a minute with out having to stop. After I get control I am ok...but most stimulation results in a lot of stop and start...more so during oral. But regardless its frustrating to me, and something I am not happy with.

With Vinarol I was really able to take a "beating"...pun intended. There was a definate improvement in stamina. I really liked the control that I had.

While this came out longer then I intended - my goal was to just find out if anyone HEARD of this supplement...I just wanted to express my good experience with it.

I must say that I have only taken 1 of the 7 pills. I want to take them only on a guaranteed sex event, due to the cost. So I cant be sure that the effects will last, or if it was a one time exposure to the ingredients.

If anyone wants to know more or even cares the least bit I will be happy to respond more - hopefully being more direct and in a more brief fashion.

[pamdaga]

I fail to see how a internally absorbed medication can both increase excitement and at the same time increase "stamina". The operational definition of "stamina" being: one's ability to control orgasm.

I feel, and have always felt, that "stamina" is a result of psychological factors. When I am concerned about it, I orgasm soon. When I am not concerned about it, I don't. I have had some of the sexiest women I've ever laid eyes on going to town on me and I have no problem... but then, at other times I've been all stressed out and concerned about my own performance and orgasmed very swiftly with relatively ugly, fairly unsexy women.

Shortly put: confidence = control.

I would like to see someone physiologically argue otherwise. The only possible explanation I can see for it is that by creating a really full-blown erection the penis gets so hard and so much blood is trapped in it that it pressures and flattens the vessels and nerves to the point where they take a lot more stimulation to orgasm - in other words, a chemical cock ring.

I for one would love it if you called them up as a paying customer and asked them exactly how the pill increases the ability to maintain control. I'll withhold further comments (for the sake of your sanity) until we get a response from that inquiry.

Still - that's really rather awesome. You know I've always believed that the first time you make love with a woman is one that leaves a lasting impression on her. I've gone to the kitchen and iced down my gonads to get them ready for more just so I can have a anoother go and create that amazing first impression before. These pills might be just what we men need for such an occasion.

Thanks for the report!

[mushmouth]

I'm not sure why an internally absorbed medication COULDN'T increase excitement and stamina....I'm not prepared to argue either position...however, I do think the stamina issue was a factor of the type of erection that was brought about. I had a somewhat less hightened feeling, sensitivity wise. Not a numb feeling perhaps, but more of a fuller feeling, if that makes sense. It felt like the blood was trapped in the, veins, arteries...what have you..thus increasing stamina. Normally, without constant stimulation I will lose the erection. Naturally I really dislike that. I'm not sure if I have somekind of veinous leakage - I have never seen anyone about it so I don't know. I am not that old (25) so I know its not normal.

Anyways. I can't really say much more about the hows and whys. I didnt really mention it, but it covers the desire disbelief that you had. I really didnt have any change in the level of excitement, or drive, if you will. To sum it up in one sentence..once things started, like normal, with oral...I really didnt lose my erection, even when nothing was happening to 'it' directly...I've always fgured this is how it is for most men - I watch movies and such, and based on that I always felt kind of different in that regard. Even after ejaculation I was still semi hard...enough so that I think insertion would have been possible - and I also had the full, 'differen't' feeling (again hard to explain)

I am also keeping in mind that this was the first time with this, and unfortunatly I dont see myself using this on a regular basis, given the price. I am however looking for something similar, hopefully cheaper, with the same ingredients.

[dino775]

mushmouth


What are the ingredients?



dino

[pamdaga]

Once stimulation stops, if I think to myself "hope it doesn't go away", it goes away. If I'm doing something else and don't think about it, it goes away just like you. I've always assumed that we are normal in this. Media always exaggerates - nothing would sell if it didn't.

It is my personal belief that anxiety causes 99% of male sexual problems. Hence the wisdom in wine and romantic evenings prior to sex.

I'm almost interested enough to buy some. Is there a phone number to call for information?

[mushmouth]

Guys,

I'll post the ingrediants later, I'm going to be going to work soon....I'm too tired and I dont feel like typing all that...there are several. In the mean time you can visit the website www.vinarol.com The site is one page with a logo..but the address and phone number is there, maybe someone gutsy will call and see why it works.

More later...

[pamdaga]

I called. They gave me another number to call. I called that number, but was told the the technical help was out. They haven't called me back.

Still very curious!

[dino775]

pamdaga


Don't waste your time so far from what I see all the herbal ones are pretty much the same. I have tried about 5 or 6 different kinds
and they all have kinda the same ingredients, and all work a little bit, some will give you a better flaccid size for awhile. Some have to much yohimbe and will make you nervous. At that price get some viagra it works like a mother f-er.


dino

[hang10]

1/4 or 1/2 a Viagra tablet is cheaper. (and I know that works)
Even if it your "herbal" works it's too expensive.

[pamdaga]

Still no response from Vinarol. I did however suddenly get an email from Bionate (the company that makes the product) informing me of great earning potential with Vinarol. I'm not sure, but it actually looks like a quasi-MLM style marketing plan.

Who knows? We'll see if they call me back.

[dino775]

pamdaga


yep that's what I thought, good job debunking!


dino

[drgmerlin]

I agree with Dino. If you want a little more lead in your pencil get some Viagra. It's good even if you don't have ED. I take very tiny amounts, especially on an empty stomach and it gives you rock hardness and stamina. Viagra seems expensive but if you can get by with 1/4 or even less sometimes, it's affordable.

Most of those herbals, if they work at all, have yohimbe in them. I occasionally like taking the stuff, but you have to be careful with it. You can buy Yohimbe at GNC stores for about $20 for a nice big bottle. I can't even take one of those capsules. I break it open, take about 1/3 of the powder. The stuff you bought probably has a bunch of other stuff like ginko, and zinc, and other shit, that makes little noticeable difference. Everyone agrees that yohimbe has a definate effect. There's a post about it over in Miscellaneous, if you want to do a search and read more about it.

But, like Dino said if you just want a rock hard boner, Viagra is the clear winner. I pop a 1/4 when i want to have marathon sex for a couple of hours. Dino do you notice the benefit even into the next day? I do. I notice that my hard ons are improved for about 24 hours. I never had problems getting erections, but Viagra gives you the kind where the head stays pumped without coaxing. It's just BIGGER. Miracle drug!
Merlin

[mushmouth]

Yes, but not everyone can get Viagra, I would like to try it but I don't have a way to try it.

[drgmerlin]

Mush, do you have a credit card? Actually i think you could probably do by sending in a money oreder to one of the Internet pharmacies. I could probably get an RX from my personal physician, but i'm cursed with being a college teacher and students that i know work in his office and at my pharmacy. So, i just spend the money and buy them via the Internet. Just do a search or i can put in the link to the one i use. It's easy. You have to answer some obvious questions and an online pharmasist will evaluate.

Be sure to act like someone who can't get hard ons. Don't tell them you want them for recreational purposes.

[mushmouth]

Have tons of cards....actually I thought of this since the big viagra online boom...but heard so many scam stories, I never really thought too much about it. I'd appreciate a link to the place where you have DEFINATLY got a supply from. I can give you my email if you dont want to be accused of advertising.

Whats the minimum order size/cost? People seem to forget Viagra isnt exactly cheap, is it still like $10 a pill?

[drgmerlin]

Mushmouth, these guys are professional. I have ordered several times with no problems. It comes discreetly wrapped and is bill on your cr card with something generic sounding. I am not promoting this one in particular. You can search on line and find hundreds and hundreds. Use any one you wish. I tried this one just for the hell of it. Price is deceiving. The best deals are to buy the 100mg and then split them. At first i was using 1/2, but that's a big dose for me. I now use 1/4 and it still does the trick. That stuff is amazing. Mine are all broken into quarters. One time i bit the quarter in half and still worked. The key to getting good mileage on these is an empty stomach. They work within 10-15 minutes. If you have a big fatty meal, it takes more and can take up to an hour to take effect.

Besides i enjoy sex better on an empty stomach, or having eaten very lightly. I feel more energetic. I like to take my girl out for a nice meal, AFTER i make her happy. We are both usually nice and hungry after some marathon sex.

If i'm breaking a rule, with this link i apoligize. I'm just trying to help Mushmouth out.

http://www.1stonlinepharmacy.com

[mushmouth]

Thanks for the link. I think I'll pass though. Too pricy.

[pamdaga]

I've never used Viagra either, but I hear that many folks just using it to use it use only 1/4 pill or so - making the dosages pretty cost effective at around 2.50 each.

Re: Vinarol. I found someone selling a 2-pack on Ebay for 12 bucks and put in a bid. 12 bucks isn't bad and it's for a good cause (science ;P).

So, hopefully I'll be able to provide a first hand report on the effectiveness of this stuff.

[mushmouth]

I may have to outbid you <heads over to eBay>......JK

I was having problems with my account here so I never posted the ingrediants...but here is a pic I took....might not be able to read it so I can retype if anyone cares.

[pamdaga]

Didn't get the pic Mush...

If you want to outbid me, I wouldn't take it personally. It's a free market. Someone else may actually drop in and do so anyhow.

I'm the same way re: sex after meals. After I eat I just want to relax. My wife and I get super-hungry while making love and we typically do that first. When we were in China together, wed work up an amazing appetite and then take a taxi out to this particular Muslim street barbeques and order about 25 shish kebobs and a bunch of beer (cost - about $4 USD). Then we'd walk the long way back and be ready for more. Life was good.

I'm kinf of leery about habitually using a chemical of some sort, I wouldn't want to make it so I was dissatisfied with my un-viagra'd state. As you've read other places, I tend towards psyching myself out of or into things that aren't good for me. That 1/4 viagra bit sounds fairly mundane though. Can you still get a comparable woody without the Viagra dose or are you completely spoiled?

I wonder how much that stuff is in Mexico - I'll be there on Thursday! Going to get some Clomid too and surprise my poor, soon-to-be-drenched wife... lol.

Jesus, I'm a bastard. Glad she loves me so much.

[mushmouth]

Nah I wont outbid you. Ive still got 6 more pills. On the CLomid issue: What is it? is it injectable? I know from being into bodybuilding Ive heard of it, just not the effects.

Ill try the pic again, I dont know why it didnt come up.

[ThunderSS]

Hey guys,
I apologize for taking so long to release the picture. When I went into the control panel to release it, there were two other photos there awaiting also. I don't know how long they have been there. If you guys post a picture or any attachment, it has to be released by a moderator first. If it doesn't happen right away, send one of the moderators a Private Message asking him to release it.

[pamdaga]

Clomid stimulates the secretion of Lutenizing Hormone, and through a chain of reactions is rumored to produce large quantities of semen - thus making your orgasms very voluminous. Think "Peter North".

It's completely non-functional, but rather a cosmetic effect for those who wish to produce lots of semen. Thinking back to my "health care days", I seem to remember administering it in pill form. I'm sure it's injectable as well in the right form. but have no experience with it.

[mushmouth]

I see, do you have an idea of what you are going to have to pay? It sounds very interesting, and something I would try. I'd even give you a couple bucks to get me some. When are you going?

[pamdaga]

You can get it online apparently for about 1 buck/pill once you factor in postage. As low as 33c/pill if you're going to buy in bulk. I'll only purchase in Mex if it's cheaper. I'll be there all of next week. If there's a big bottle for relatively cheap I'll buy it and see if folks here wish to split it out with me.

[mushmouth]

Oh I didnt know if it was legal here. Do you have a URL? Id be interested in splitting it.

[dino775]

Merlin


Yes about the viagra and next day, flaccid hangs great. Melin if you ever want it to work almost right away chew a quarter and swallow a quarter. The chewed quarter gets your motor running almost right away and the 2nd whole quarter keeps it going. I find when I do take it I have no recovery time after I blow a load.
I just stay hard until I cum a 2nd time and this can take awhile. I use viagra for those special nights,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it's a nice way to say
to remind the little women that you can still rock there world like no one else.


Dino

[pamdaga]

I got a phone call back from Bionate. It was a mousy-sounding guy who explained that the patent was still pending and they didn't really go into much detail about the contents of the supplement. Not very confidence inspiring.

He did give me a "membership" shpiel about option 1 and 2 and what is including in both and the benefits of becoming a Bionate Associate. I typed an email while he was going on about this.

With any luck, I'll have my 2 Vinarol pills in the mail soon and will be able to give a hands-on report (ok - I know that one's bad, but I couldn't resist).

[mushmouth]

Well the patent dosent mean much, I posed a pic of the box, but here are the ingrediants:

Cassia Tree, Dodder Seed, Epimedium, Wolfberry, Saling, Cistanche, Mangoliavine Fruit, Red Raspberry, Narrow Leaved Polygala, Rehmannia Root, Eucommia Bark, Hindo Lotus Seed, Bidemate Bark, Milk Vetch Seed, Cherokee Rose, Arborviate Seed, American Ginseng, Ginko Biloba

500MG

[Dance]

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[pamdaga]

ok - I finally tried my Vinarol.

It claims ultra-hardness, no refractory time and increased loads for 6-8 hours. I'm not sure about effects on the erection end of things... I'm usually pretty damn hard and didn't notice any significant increase. Perhaps a little, but maybe just my imagination too. I seemed a wee bit more randy, but who knows? Maybe refractory time would have been reduced if I'd been interested in continuing... but I wasn't. Load volume... seemed the same.

One thing it definitely did is gave me a massive headache for 5 hours. It was bad enough that I declined to try the other pill out. I wouldn't recommend it.

[Bighose]

Has anyone here heard of Vidrin? It's Viagra but in a soft gel tab form. I really would like to give it a try, but is very expensive and requires a prescription just like Viagra. Also, in most cases there's a consultation fee to pay. If anyone is interested in learning more about it just do a search on google or any good search engine under "Vidrin".

[HughJorgan9]

I bought mine from a site that includes the "doctor's prescription" included for about $10 each, but when you do like others have stated and break it into quarters, it's only $2.50 per...and a quarter will get you over problem....

hj

[RB]

How long until generic Viagra?