For the Rest a ya, A Question that needs answering.(About Xenadrine)

[nutmonkey]

Ok guys, i asked this in my sandwich post but id like to ask some guys who didnt look at it. Im 6', and i weigh 165, and i have these love handles and a little gut. I go to the gym 4 times a week w/ 30 min cadio, 30 min weights. Well i was thinking about taking Xendarine. Any guys against this/for it, and why. Thanks fellas.

[notorious dick]

i used to take thermal cuts by Sci Fit and i strongly reccommend not taking any product containing ephedrine. this stuff really screwed me up and i never took more than what was reccommended on the bottle. i asked my doctor about it and she said it can really do some strange things to your liver and heart. my ALT levels in my liver were above normal when i was taking ephedrine(high ALT levels is not good). if you want to lose your love handles just try to eat less and workout a little harder. do specific exercises that concentrate on your oblique muscles like the side crunch or bicycle crunches.

hope this helped

[nutmonkey]

So ephedrine is bad eh? Does xenadrine contain ephedrine? I was unaware, i just heard about it and thought id ask around before i started taking it. To tell ya the truth, its like my only hope. Due to my schedule im not able to work out more than 1 hour 4 times a week. But i HAVE to get into shape for the beach this summer and its my only option. If its not good, what other suplements should i take that wont freak me up? Your help it appreciated.

[notorious dick]

1hr 4 times a weeks should be adequate time to get your abs in shape.
here is a good website with exercises. search around the site because there are some good links in there that tell you how to get the most out of your time in the gym and they show you how to perform ab excercises when your not in the gym.


http://www.menshealth.com/personaltrainer/t4_routines/original_index.html

[BigJ]

I take Hydroxycut by muscletech and it contains ephedrine.

This doesn't have any adverse effects on me at all but one of my friends was taking it and he didn't like it as it spaced him out.

I find that this stuff does work so it might be worth giving it a try - but buy a small bottle as maybe you won't tolerate it well.

Another possibility you could try is get in touch with a supplier and get the european stuff (hydroxycut) as i live in europe and i have to order from the states to get the stuff with ephedrine. I think ephedrine might be banned here so the stuff you get here has synephrine which is supposed to be a bit easier on you.

just some ideas.......

[nutmonkey]

Hey, my brother uses Hydroxycut. He has only been on it a week or so, so he hasn't seen any major changes i think. I think you right on the tolerance thing b/c my brother was taking stacker and he said it made his kidneys hurt but i took it and i was fine, lots 10lbs too, :). Well i tell ya, i have some great ab exercises that i do at home and at the gym so im set on that department. But i swear you guys its like someone took fat and SUPER glued it to my sides and like no matter what i do i cant get it off. So, i plan on using Xenadrine as like a super glue disolver........kinda ketchy metaphor if i dont say so myself. But seriously, thanks for the input guys, if ya have any more coments feel free to tell me. thanks

[mmpeter]

Nutmonkey


you might want to try Xenadrine EFX, its ephedrine free. I have not had the chance to try it though. I believe it is a fairly new product.

[nutmonkey]

Ya i waz looking on the website they have and i heard about that. I really think i might go w/ that. Ill keep you posted on my results a'ight.

[Minidong]

Obviously, there's a lot of confusion going on about weight loss and ephedrine, so I thought I throw in my 2c.

Xenadrine, Hydroxycut, etc. are all more or less the same thing, they are called ECA stacks, because they contain ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin either in their pure form or as herbal extracts from ma huang, guarana and white willow bark. These ingredients work synergistically, which means the whole thing doesn't work when you take one of them out of the equation. This is why most ephedrine-free products are quite useless.

I've heard so many horror stories, it's not even funny anymore. The FDA started it and the media hyped it up and now it's looked down upon as a dangerous drug. BS.

Some people may have a low tolerance and hence not like its effects, but that's like saying 'Oh coffee is bad for you, I just gulped down 12 cups and got all dizzy'. It depends on the individual. Be happy if you do have a low tolerance to stimulatory drugs, it'll save you lots of money because you only need to take half the dose.

That said, I recommend you grab the cheapest ECA stack available. You can also buy the ingredients seperately and save even more.

Just remember that more is not necessarily better and you're going to be fine. Also, use it 5 days on, 2 days off, otherwise your body will get used to it too quick and you'll have to up the dose.

There may also be a reason for the stubborn fat zones around your midsection. Those areas typically contain a very high amount of Alpha 2 adrenoceptors, which make it a lot harder to lose it. You may want to look into topical yohimbe products (e.g. www.yohimburn.com), I use it myself and highly recommend it.

Another very important thing is your diet. Stay away from carbs, especially in the afternoon and at night. If you're serious about changing your body, look into cyclical ketogenic diets.

You could stack any of that with usnic acid or injectable carnitine to speed up the process, but it doesn't sound like you're that desperate yet. ;)

That's for the legal options (for the USA at least). Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Good luck!

Minidong :)

[nutmonkey]

So your tellin' me that Xenadrine EFX will not work just b/c it doesnt have ephedrine in it? Hmmmmmmmm i just dont know what to say to that. There is also Xenadrine RFA and i think that has ephedrine. But if the other stuff works, why get something w/ ephedrine? O, quick question, is ephedrine and ephedra the same thing? Its only gonna cost me about $40 bucks tops. I dont think that is too outrageous. What kind of cheap stack thingys do you recomend. I kinda want it in like one pill sorta thing and not like 5 different things to take, ya know. What do you mean the media has built up the effects of ephedrine? C'mon people, i need answers since this concerns my body. You are right about the needles thing, i aing gonna touch em.

[SS4Jelq]

If you have alreay then I apologise, but I would optimise my training and diet before looking at supplements. Dont bother with fat burner pills just yet. The claims are often outrageous and you wont get anywhere if you are not eating and training right. Trust me, spend your money on some clean food and protein powders, read up on the net, and sort out an optimal program for yourself to follow.

You will make more progress by doing this than just doing what you are now but with some over priced ECA.

SS4

[Minidong]

Originally posted by nutmonkey
So your tellin' me that Xenadrine EFX will not work just b/c it doesnt have ephedrine in it? Hmmmmmmmm i just dont know what to say to that. There is also Xenadrine RFA and i think that has ephedrine. But if the other stuff works, why get something w/ ephedrine? O, quick question, is ephedrine and ephedra the same thing? Its only gonna cost me about $40 bucks tops. I dont think that is too outrageous. What kind of cheap stack thingys do you recomend. I kinda want it in like one pill sorta thing and not like 5 different things to take, ya know. What do you mean the media has built up the effects of ephedrine? C'mon people, i need answers since this concerns my body. You are right about the needles thing, i aing gonna touch em.

All your questions have been answered in my post already.
Ephedra is the herbal from of ephedrine, which means it's the same thing and if you want a cheap single cap ECA stack, just go with Xenadrine, a bottle runs about $20 and will last you a month.

Don't forget cardio in the morning and you're all set.

Of course you can do without, as some other guys recommended. I myself am a firm believer in pharmacology though and if there's something out there that will greatly speed up my progress without major side effects, I will use it.

In the end it is your decision though and I wish you good luck. :)

Sorry for the short response but I just came home after a 17-hr-workday and really need some sleep now.

Minidong :)