Has anyone tried Enzyte?

[Titan]

Has anyone tried enzyte. I thought it was a drug like viagra, but through more research I see that it is a combination of herbs. I have seen the commercials often on tv. They come across like regular drug commercials and not those sleazy late night variety with Ron Jeremy in them. The claims on different sites are of course phenomenal. Of course I had to come ask you guys what ya thought about it.

[MDC]

Originally posted by Titan
Has anyone tried enzyte. I thought it was a drug like viagra, but through more research I see that it is a combination of herbs. I have seen the commercials often on tv. They come across like regular drug commercials and not those sleazy late night variety with Ron Jeremy in them. The claims on different sites are of course phenomenal. Of course I had to come ask you guys what ya thought about it.

You can buy the exact same herbal supplements at GNC, but without the big penis claims. :D Amazing that they've been selling these for years without anyone growing a big penis before.

[2in2002]

I used to sell vitamins and herbs so I still have my catalogs. I went to the various websites where they sell penis pills and listed the most commonly used ingredients among the various pills. I then priced out the highest quality herbs and supplements I could find in my catalogs and you can replicate all the ingredients for a 3-4 month supply for about 1/4 the price. There may be merit to some of the supplements if you take a bit of time and search the boards, but I think the general consensus among the vets here is that pills wont make it grow but PE will :)

[hang10]

what a scam,

Enzyte™ capsules:
Niacin
Zinc
Yohimbe Bark Extract
Tribulus Terrestris
Panax Ginseng Root
Guarana Seed Extract
Ashwagandha Root
L-Arginine
Damiana Leaf Extract
Gingko Biloba Leaf Extract
Saw Palmetto
Muira Puama Stem
Maca

as you can see nothing but suplements and herbs and it will set you back about $100 a month. There is no way taking any of this crap by itself will grow your dick

Get it out of your head that there's some magic pill, if it sounds too good to be true, it is.

[hang10]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/healthscience/health/drugs/2002-04-18-enzyte.htm

Why is this man smiling? It's not Viagra

By Rita Rubin, USA TODAY



Smiling Bob, the ever-grinning pitchman for Enzyte.

If you've watched CNN, ESPN or a few other cable channels lately, chances are you've seen "Smiling Bob" pitching the pill that supposedly induced his silly grin. It's called Enzyte, and it allegedly increases penis size. But don't confuse Smiling Bob's pill with that preferred by another smiling Bob — Viagra pitchman Bob Dole, that is. Despite its official-looking logo, complete with an impressive Latin phrase (more on that later), Enzyte is no Viagra. It's not even a prescription drug.

Read more below

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Video Enzyte ad guarantees a smile on your face


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Enzyte contains a grab bag of ingredients, mainly herbs, that individually have a reputation for improving men's sex lives.

Enzyte is the latest in a long line of potions and devices that capitalize on men's insecurities about the size of their genitalia. But it might be the first to break out of the back of men's magazines and the Internet and into popular television.

For that, says Mark Blumenthal, executive director of the American Botanical Council in Austin, Enzyte can probably thank Viagra. Since Viagra, the first pill to treat impotence, came on the market in 1998, he says, "we're getting used to the idea of marketing products for improving male performance."

But do they work? While some of these herbs have been used for centuries, clinical trials are lacking. In such scientific studies, men would be randomly assigned to receive either a placebo or the herb in question.

The folks who market Enzyte offer up their "Independent Customer Study," which involved mailing a questionnaire with the product to 70 men.

According to a company brochure, the most-improved volunteers reported that the length and circumference of their erect penis increased a total of four inches.

"It makes no sense medically," counters Dallas urologist Kenneth Goldberg. There's no way that increasing blood flow to the penis, as Enzyte claims to do, will actually increase its size, he says.

"Unfortunately, guys are just preoccupied with the thought that their penises are small," Goldberg says. "They have all kinds of psychological issues over it. It's very easy to play on that weakness."

Apparently so. Enzyte has been so successful that two more Smiling Bob commercials are set to air later this year, says Steve Warshak, founder of Lifekey, a Cincinnati company that sells the product.

A typical Enzyte customer, Warshak says, is between 30 and 55 years old, "probably a little higher income. You know, your golfers and your Bimmer drivers."

That's not surprising, considering that a month's supply — 60 capsules — costs $99.95. In the past two months, Warshak says, 21,400 men were repeat customers, ordering online or by calling Lifekey.

Now about that supposedly Latin phrase in the product's logo: suffragium asotas. Warshak translated the phrase as "enhanced sexuality."

Rhett Martin, a teaching fellow at Harvard University's classics department, says Enzyte's makers might actually have meant suffragor asotis, a grammatically awkward way of saying, "refuge for the dissipated."

What is Enzyte?

Tribulus Terrestris. A plant found in Australia, Asia, Africa and North and South America that is a natural testosterone stimulant.

Yohimbe Extract. An African evergreen, yohimbe is an aphrodisiac used in the treatment of impotence.

Niacin. Needed for proper circulation and is involved in the production of sex hormones, including testosterone.

Epimedium. An important supplement in Traditional Chinese medicine. A leafy plant, it has long been used to treat erectile problems, to improve libido and to restore sexual vitality.

Avena Sativa. Avena Sativa is rich in vitamins and has been shown to stimulate genital organs.

Zinc Oxide. Zinc is essential for many body functions and is part of more than 200 enzymes in the body.

Maca. An annual grown in Peru, animal studies have shown that Maca creates increased energy and stamina in sexual activity.

Muira Pauma. A native shrub of Brazil, it has long been used to improve libido and increase sexual potency.

Ginkgo Biloba. Increases arterial blood flow which has a beneficial effect on sexual function in men.

L-Arginine. An amino acid shown to improve erections.

Saw Palmetto. Used to treat prostate health problems.

Other ingredients: Gelatin, rice bran, oat fiber, magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide.

Source: Lifekey Healthcare, Inc.

[hang10]

http://www.askthecouch.com/default.htm?http%3A//www.askthecouch.com/search/1_0402.asp

Dear Couch,

Actually this is more an answer than a question. I have used pumps in the past and I agree with the few who say they do work. When I started using it I was 6" by 4 1/2 in circumference. I am now 7" by 5 and haven't used the pump for almost a year so the gains are permanent. As for the Jelqing method I have tried it and it seems to work although its hard to remember to do it all the time on a regular basis. I don't believe it can help stop prostate cancer but as for a bigger penis I think it works for some. Some see gains and some don't I know it worked for me.

Signed,
Kevin

Dear Kevin,

We're glad to hear you found something which satisfied your needs and more power to you. We're not going to comment one way or another since, as you mentioned, we've already made our feelings clear on both jelqing and pumping.

We are however going to take this opportunity to address a television commercial we saw today. "Whoopee!" you're saying. "I come here for sex advice and these freaks want to discuss TV ads!". Well, yes we do. Allow us to paint a picture for you. We're working diligently on this site as that's all we do. The real owners of the site left a television on for us to watch from our cages, and one of those pharmaceutical ads starts playing. We didn't pay too much attention to it at first, the usual calming voice talking about symptoms and softened images of people being happy. Then we hear "...penis.." and "...enlargement...". "What's this?!?", we say, all one thousand of us looking up from our keyboards. A prescription drug promising increased penis size?!? "Look! A web address for the product!" ....

...Ah, Enzyte (suffragium asotas) capsules, still looking like a legitimate drug manufacturer, then we see that evil word, 'supplement'. It's not an FDA approved drug at all. Just another Yohimbe/Niacin supplement with one hell of a deceitful marketing campaign. Normally, we don't make a big deal out of these supplements. We just point them out, brand a snake-oil-salesman label on their asses and send them out with the rest of the herd. But this is different, VERY DIFFERENT! This television commercial is VERY convincing in presenting itself as your average, FDA approved, fine for human consumption, drug ad. IT AIN'T!!

Notice that in the television ad and on the Web site, the words 'suffragium asotas' appear in parentheses below the 'product' name. This is part of their blatant attempt to deceive consumers into believing this is a legitimate drug product. We've all seen this same thing on legitimate drug marketing materials as it's a standard in the industry. The words in parentheses refer to the chemical name of the product, such as VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate). Sildenafil citrate is a meaningful chemical identifier. Now look at Enzyte (suffragium asotas). What is "suffragium asotas" you may ask. It's nonsense. It is not a chemical reference and best we can figure, suffragium is Latin for "right to vote". Asotas appears to be pure gibberish. The person at the other end of the ordering number translated this as Latin for "better sex". Yea, right.

On the Web site, a supposed "independent study" is referenced to support their product claims. No where on that page or in the rest of the site is it mentioned which company performed the "independent study". This is a very important omission as the entire point of an independent study is to hire a company whose sole business is to perform Independent studies and noting the research company's name is what gives posted results validity. From what their site documents, they could have pulled those numbers out of their you know whats as far as we know. As a matter of fact, they state the data was "... returned to Lifekey Healthcare, Inc. for interpretation of results." which is their own company, so we can hardly consider that an "Independent Study".

LifeKey Healthcare, Inc, according to the Better Business Bureau of Cincinnati is a reseller of products from 21st Century Nutritional Products, a vitamin and supplement manufacturer. The Better Business Bureau report goes on to state, "Based on BBB files, this company (LifeKey Healthcare, Inc) has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unanswered complaint(s)." Gee, what a surprise.

We're not going to review this products 'formulation' as listed by the "Supplement Facts" table which oddly looks very much like an official FDA Nutrition Facts label. All of these ingredients encompass the average list of the supplement industry's "Magic Elixirs" for anything related to the penis and also supposed 'energy boosters'. Just remember that many of them can cause drug interactions with any current medications and you should always check with your doctor before starting a supplement.

So be careful out there people! The supplement industry is highly unregulated and people will take advantage of this fact. Let us clarify here that we are not suggesting LifeKey Healthcare or Enzyte are in any way stating this is an FDA approved drug. They clearly use the word 'supplement' which under current laws will cover their ass. What we have a really hard time with, is the marketing image being used here. We think even an above average intelligence person could easily mistake this ad campaign as being that of a legitimate, FDA approved, product. Especially the television ad.

[josipbrozus]

Titan, are you still pumping? I have been thinking about it for months now, and I´d like to try it, because my gains in girth are just not coming...I will only wait two more months with pe alone.
Could you help me? What pump/brand should I buy? How should I combine it with pe? I remember mistered told me to star with low pressures and pumping for 10-15 min a day in the start.
Hope to hear from you man.
Josip.

[hang10]

josipbrozus,

I myself am about to delve into pumping.

LA pump and cockpump are 2 sites that sell pumps.
Thunders Place has a forum devoted to pumping.
I see alot of the same faces there from here.

And from I can gather so far, pumping will help you reinforce girth gains but not produce them by themselves. So used with jelqing it might help but you won't get any permanent gains by pumping alone.

[josipbrozus]

Hello Hang10, yes that is the general theory: no permanent gains...Anyway, pumpers get those temporary girth results that tempt me...If PE works, pumping should, somehow, work too. I think it all depends on how you do it. Maybe PE combined with pumping colud be OK, maybe not.
In exactly two months I will decide if I include pumping in my routine or not, depending on PE results. I was advised it is a little bit more dangerous than PE regarding injuries so it´s better to be very careful.
I´ll be in touch.
Josip.

[Titan]

Yeah im still pumping. Not as much as I used to, but probably 30 minutes 4 or 5 days a week. It used to be 1-2 hours everyday. I think pumpin is great with any pe routine. I will always keep a pump handy as long as I am sexually active.