What do the pay progams give you that is so special?

[mayhem]

I'm not forkin over 50$ for something that might be a scam. Any advice here would be great.

[AverageSized]

Dedication.
Cuz if you paid $50 for the Info provided in these forums, you'd stick to it for at least 5 months.. so it's only $10 / month for the info :D

[luvdadus]

All the techniques are here and at thunders.
You can look at clips of jelqing on yahoo jelqers group.
thunders has some high tech tutuorials done by lil1 and tom hubbard. bib answers questions about hanging on both forums.
Between the three sites you can find every thing you need and support and advice as well pe and non pe related.
If you feel the need to join a pay site, why not big Al's site?

[Orgazmo]

I'll second that, there is nothing on a pay site you cant find here or at thunders.

[merlin101]

Well movieclips of the actual jelq. But the ones I saw, they were way to erect!

[luvdadus]

like I said the jelqers clubs has several clips of jelqing in their yahoo group.

[RB]

Basically, Structure. You can follow a recipe and bake a cake, or dump one out of the box. Same concept, everything is laid out nice and easy for you to follow to skip some of the trial and error period.

I second the recommendation to join Big Al's site. And I don't believe it will cost you $50...

[Gandolf]

I'm here to say save your money. I have bought 2 of the most popular sites over the years and there isnt a single bit of information that you dont have here. There is however 5 times the exercises on this forum that you can get with those programs. I spent 3 years on and off using those pay programs with NO GAINS, until I found this free site and finally I am gaining. The knowledge here is great, but I think the deciding factor is the morale here. Everyone here has been so great to me and it has motivated me to attack my goals for a bigger dick.

If you need anything clarified, dont buy a 50 dollar program thinkin it has all the answers, send me a PM

[BobbDobbs]

I've joined two pay sites. The benefit of the second site was a user forum that pointed to this site! :)

There is nothing at pay sites (less in fact) than you can find here.

[teeitup]

The advantage of a pay site is structure, a predefined plan that progresses you safely into PE. Typically you have a set schedule you follow, from week to week. Each week progresses into additional jelqs/reps or exercises.

In addition, with the numerous posts I see with people injuring themselves, I believe beginners get too gungho about PE and try to do advanced exercises before they are ready or do basic exercises incorrectly. Thus causing injury. Most pay sites will offer detailed instructions on performing their exercises, some with pictures, and video instructions as well.

With all that said, is the $40--$50 worth it, if you can gain the same information here and other PE forums? Probably not.

[heyguy]

how are the exercises layed out at thunders? Is it just a big list of exercises? I thought about joining this penile gym site but won't if I can get it cheaper here!

thanks..

[aarzakk]

Don't bother with the penile gym. In fact it's a known fact that the majority of pay sites copy each others programs and put it into their own words and maybe add some new twists.

You can easily use the search command here and find what you need. Why pay for a site that's most likely getting their info from here anyways?

It's funny how pay sites seem to be outright stealing techniques that started here and renaming them. Plus you can't get the kind of informative attention on the pay sites as you can here.

New techniques are being tested constantly and you get immediate feedback right here in the forum. People here have passion, it's not money related.

If you're going to sign up wth any site then go with Big Al. He's been around the block and has worked with many here in the forum to gain and give input.

I've seen the forums on some of the popular paysites. What does the owner of the site usually do to participate in his forum, he trys to heckle people into sending pictures, use the customers as a marketing tool ... there's little interest in actual enlargement after you've handed over the cash.

Use your own judgement.

[mrwotsit]

A paysite can give you an excellent base set of exericses, videos and step by step pictures. Some even offer 24/7 support.

[jkisineffect]

man i have bought over 10 pe .com,s
just to mention some......massive member.com
......forsize.com.......penilesecrets.com......on and
on like everyone said they are all the same

3 basic exersises warm up stretch and jelk
they all say the same thing

i think this forum is the the best i bought big als
by the way later johnny k

[Big Al]

About forsize.com- If you look beyond the basic routines into FMO II, you'll see a lot more that the basic jelq and stretches :)

[GrowingUp]

I joined a pay site about 2 months ago and never got into it, great erotic stories, etc. Not a latge inducement even if it was only $50.00 for membership, don't remember if 3,6 9,or 12 months. Bottom line I got more from this site, Thunder's and the UK site, all free, then the paysite. I have been impressed with the help and freely sharing of information. You guys are great.
And yes, I will be adding my name to the list of supporters.