This site is wierd..

[6wants7]

Apparently somebody has devoted their life to convincing the world that women love and need really big penises.. This site has 56 pages of penis size propaganda, and although it might be right about a lot of things, I think most of it is crap.. I even started laughing at some places. I haven't read it all though, it's too much.. (Maybe it's just a joke, I don't know)
The main problem is probably that the guy (?) who made this site treats women like they're all alike, and we know that they're not!

If you have a small to average penis and are easily convinced, this site is probably gonna make you depressed.. or inspired to Pe if you choose to believe any of it :-) Maybe I come back and have a self confidence boost once I have Pe'd myself to a bigger dick :)

http://www.penissizedebate.com/

or the contents page:

http://www.penissizedebate.com/contents.htm

This guy has too much time on his hands..

[gettinbigger]

I completely understand you 6wants7. There are millions of men out there who just shrug off the idea of being small or average. I started out wanting a big dick, but lately I'm not as obsessed. I haven't posted here in a quite some time and haven't done pe either. I may start up again, but my goals are set on a whole new state of mind.

[christof]

Yeah..all women crave 3 foot long dicks..

this whole thing is created by and for men..women have no part in it. We attach sexual fertility and the ability to please a women almost exclusively to penis size..from what I have gathered from my experience with women, adequate (not excessive) penis size is just a minor part of the picture.

Men, in their arrogant and stubborn way, assume that there is a positive, unlimited linear relationship with penis size and the ability to please a woman. The truth is that there is an excess, there is a limit..we, for the most part, don't consider that women may enjoy different aspects of sex than those men do..sex feels different to them and it is likely about different things.

I'll bet that most women would take a man with a 6.5 inch penis that would work them hard and fast like a vibrator over a man with a 9 inch dick that bottoms out when he thrusts and has to go slow in order to not hurt them.

PE is about men, not women. I admit I am doing it for myself and not in consideration of pleasing women. I want the look, and I want to be better than other men.

[RB]

To borrow a phrase from Luvdadus, I've been small and I've been big, and bigger is better...

I'm pe'ing for my own self esteem as well as pleasure for my wife. I can assure you, now that I am bigger and am able to tap her cul-de-sac, she is cumming like NEVER before.

My goals are what she can take. I need a bit more length, to hit the cds more easily in more positions, and probably another .75" in girth. Once I can sink home while stretching her out, I'm into maintenance mode... Final size will probably be around 9.5" ebpl and 6.25 girth. Having had two children vaginally, while this may sound like overkill in some people's minds, I am confident it will do her a world of good.

[lexx]

Thing about this site is that all girth preferences seem to be huge..."ideal girth is between 6.5" and 7.25" How many guys here actually have more than 7" girth? Also it says that "over-mastubating' causes your penis to shrink by depleting your sexual energy!

[christof]

That site isn't just weird..that site is plain evil. I wouldn't be surprised if it was made by one of those guys with a micro penis..

Things the author presents as facts are really opinions. 99% of that material is opinion. I don't know where he is getting this stuff, but it appears that the main objective is to cultivate insecurity and misconceptions in men. In fact, the author may really be a female. I am looking for the hidden agenda in all of this..some kind of link to a PE site or something.

That stuff is ridiculous. Don't buy any of it, it is misinformation. There is an agenda, a bitterness or a profit motive. Most women would laugh their asses off reading that and being told how they think and feel about penis size.

I would like to sit the author down and have a conversation with him/her.

[AverageSized]

I PE for myself... my lover has multiple orgasms generally everytime we make love. So what I got works :D

Yes there are bigger girls out there that need more, but for myself personally, my lover is perfectly fit for me.
I'm doing it for myself.. and if she enjoys a bit more size if I gain anything from PE'n than so be it.

But personally I know we have great sex and she's been with bigger and did not enjoy it nearly as much as she does with myself. Like it's been said. A good lover is a good lover.

Just because you have a 9x6" cock, doesn't mean your woman is going to be cumming like no other if you can't use it or keep it rock hard for her.

That's one thing I will say I've definetly gained a bit more from PE'n... is rock hard erections like I was 14 all over again.

As for the person who made that site... maybe that's their opinion and some share it with them. But I've been with a few women, talk to a few guys, etc... and I know some like them big and some like them small and some average, simple as that.

Different Strokes for Different folks...

[Orgazmo]

The only people I feel sorry for are those that get into this without first taking a deep breath and saying "what I have works, anything I get out of this is just bonus"

Bigger cock absolutely does NOT mean better in bed. I've only been PEing for a few months now, but for years I have worked on stamina (mainly my concentration) and overall technique. As a result of that I have given every woman I've been with multiple orgasms. One of them had been married to a guy that was bigger than me (I asked). One time, after a hour long stuffing, she flat out told me that I was the best she had ever been with. Now THATS an ego boost. As far as my current girlfriend, I have given her such intense orgasms that she temporarily looses control of herself (has hurt me with her nails during one of these).

I say this not to blow my own horn or to make myself sound like some kind of porn star but to prove a point. My penis up to this point has been a 5.75 EL by 5 EG. So I've been completely successful with what most would consider a below average member. I'm around 6.5 EL and a bit over 5 EG now and truthfully my gf has had a bit of a hard time tolerating the new growth.

[RB]

Orgazmo, if you don't mind I'd like to use your post to make a point. It's all about matching dick and vagina sizes. At your pre pe size, you commented that you were getting your gf's rocks off. Now she is having trouble taking the added growth. To me this points that you were a very close match to start with, which could explain her response to your stimulation. Not saying you aren't a good lover :)

It's all relative. Pre-pe and pre-childbirth, my wife and I were a good match, and I got her off with my 5x4. 2 kids later, it wasn't the same ballgame. To get the match back, I need a bigger penis.

Of course I'm in a monogamous relationship. If playing the field with women who haven't had children, it would be a whole nother ballgame, and I'd have to make some decisions as to the best size I should aim for. Chances are, I'd be there already...

[dickgrow]

I agree that it is all about fit. Some women have big pussies, some have tight ones. I think most guys perfer a tighter pussy to a looser one, and I think that most women prefer a bigger dick to a smaller one. However, for men the tightness of a pussy is not going to be the deciding factor on whether or not a woman can fuck them well, and the same goes for dick size. I think women that think size is extremely important, are those that have huge pussies, or those that get a psychological thrill out of being "stretched." The only reason a big dick is heraled more than a tight pussy is cultural/ psychological. If the tightness of a woman's pussy was visually apparent, than they would probably be stuck with the same insecurities we are.
Just my opinion.

[christof]

Interesting post dickgrow. Women don't have to worry about pussy size, but their breasts are on display all day.

[bigbutnottoo]

As far as the girth, I think anything over 6" is very large.

And the claim that most women have seen a 12 x 8, that is real bullshit.

I know my ex told me that none of her main friends had ever had a guy 8", they werent sluts, but i would consider them of average experience.

[bigbutnottoo]

I just wanted to add:

I don't want to get all philosophical here, but:


I and most of the people I associate with have certain moral standards annd a certain value system ( I dont mean religious, in fact i am atheist).

These opinions on penis size treat human beings as mere animals and females as promiscuous animals.

However, people have brains and certain rational reasoning facilities that enable them to make decisions.
Most people, do not act purely on instint or animal lust. I think most people have initial instincts , feelings of lust,etc; but then their brain kicks in and they make decisions based on certain criteria in their value system(s).

For example, I may see several females in a day that I am strongly sexual attracted to and have urges for, but that doesnt mean I will sleep with them.

I consult my own value system ( which is second nature) and I know no matter how bad I might urge to rip their clothes off right then and there i have certain requirements. For example, I have a respect for them and myself. Also, I personally would not likely have sex with someone unless there was some attraction or relationship beyond physical.


My point is: Even if huge penises are more arousing for women, this does not mean they will seek out huge penises.

This penissizedebate site debases human beings and removes from them all respect, reason, responsibility etc.

Human beings are not jungle animals.

I got jealous before because my Ex knew a guy who was known to be "Huge". I dont know how big, but big enough that it was kindof commonn knowledge. She flat out told me she would never want to sleep with him because she wasnt attracted to him, not in looks, mentally at all. And mostlye because he was uneducated, and rude to his mother.

Females might talk about the huge ones, but females ( ones that are worth F***ing) are looking for a penis owner with a lot else besides a big one.


Any commments on this are appreciated.

[WantToBeThick]

I actually read most of the thing. He makes some interesting points that make logical sense, but his research is a joke and his pictures are ludicrous. Still it's interesting reading. Just don't take it too seriously.

[Orgazmo]

Originally posted by RB
Orgazmo, if you don't mind I'd like to use your post to make a point. It's all about matching dick and vagina sizes. At your pre pe size, you commented that you were getting your gf's rocks off. Now she is having trouble taking the added growth. To me this points that you were a very close match to start with, which could explain her response to your stimulation. Not saying you aren't a good lover :)

Absolutely, my current GF and I were matched up in size to begin with. However, me and my first (and second now that I think of it) were not. I was never able to hit the back on either of them. Girth wise things were fine though. And it was harder to give them orgasms than my current gf. So you've got a good point.

[drgmerlin]

YOu guys all have good points. I also found the site to be interesting but full of shit from time to time. They claim 8X5 is not satisfying? And 7.5X6 you are less than ideal? And 6X5.5 many girls might not be satisfied? From his point of view, 90% of mankind is inadequate.

RB, i agree that filling your partner is one of the primary goals. Thank God for PE which gives us some control. My girl has had two kids, I'm about 7X5.5. Her pussy feels tight, i hit bottom fairly easily, she cums like a race horse. I'm not sure she could take more.


COPIED & PASTES FROM THE "WEIRD" SITE
• At 5½ inches long by 7 inches around you will be enjoyable (too short but very thick) = D.
• At 8 inches long by 5 inches around you are again enjoyable but not satisfying (big in length but on the small side for girth) = D.
• At 7½ inches long by 6 inches around you are very satisfying but not ideal (big in length but just over average in girth) = B.
• At 6 long by 5½ around you are on the borderline of being enjoyable and satisfying. Many girls might not be satisfied. It is a borderline C.
• At 5 inches long by 4½ around you are classified E: not satisfying
• At 11½ inches long by 9 around you will get an E from most women for being simply oversized!
Note: Let it be clear that the majority of men will fall in the lower-left D and C brackets. Grade-A penises are probably occurring in less than 10% of men.