Some thoughts on hard gainers-

[RB]

I know many of your are probably wondering what the fuck I'm doing here, as I am a fast gainer, but I have some thoughts on mistakes I've made then corrected that perhaps others are struggling with.

1- You gotta believe. This shit works, and you have to have faith that what your are doing is NOT work, but rather a very effective way to make your penis larger. You have to wake up every day looking forward to another chance to make your dick bigger. Mindset is a VERY POWERFUL tool... Don't ignore it. Before , during and after your workouts, visualize yourself with a big tool.

2- Don't just go through the motions. I could grab my dick in a circle grip and run it up and down my shaft, not really concentrating on what I am trying to accomplish, count to 1000 and say I just did 1000 jelqs. More than likely, I just wasted 30 minutes of my life playing with myself.

3- Concentrate on the feelings of what you are trying to accomplish. With a jelq, you are trying to push the blood towards the penis head while feeling the tissues expand. With a squeeze, you are trying to force blood outward, expanding your girth. Be 150% focused on the move, and nothing else.

4- Don't be afraid of concentrated controlled pressure, especially for girth. To make tissue bigger, it needs to be stressed to the point of expansion. Just don't get crazy with it. Be very in tune with the feelings and sensations going on in your penis. For several months I was leary of discoloration, and avoided moves that caused any. Consequently, I failed to make gains during these times. Face it, you more than likely are going to have to beat your dick up a little in order for it to grow bigger and stronger. For what it's worth, after 4 weeks rest I took a while back, my skin color improved, and is continually improving as I'm finding the horshoe bend for girth doesn't give me the skin discoloration or red dots other girth squeezes were.

5- Don't be afraid to ask questions until you fully understand something! It is very hard to communicate throught he written word what a person is doing EXACTLY to their dick.

6- I read somewhere once that stated the definition of insanity was doing the same exact thing over and expecting different results. You need to find moves that work for you. Don't get stuck in a rut.

[twatteaser]

Please keep posting here. I like the fundamental philosphy behind it all.

[Darth Vader]

I am surprised there are not that many post in this forum. It seems like there has to be hard-gainers out there. I know I am one. I have been on this journey since March of 2001. So I am approaching 2 years. In that time I have gained about .7 inches in length and maybe 1/8 of an inch in girth. These gains probably happened in the first 6 months of my program. Since then nothing. I may have gained about .25 in flacid stretched length but the erect-length has not shown any improvement.

So I guess I am on a 15th month plateau. If you wanna call 15 months a plateau. I have used both the Bib-Hangers for hanging. I have V-Stretched, Manual Stretched, ULIS and the complete circuit. I am doing the DLDS and these may show promise but I have not seen any gains since beginning them about 3 weeks ago. I really want to use the DLDS along with hanging, but I haver never been able to solve the wrapping problem so any time I use over 10 pounds I find there is too much pressure in the head to do this for an extended time period. If I could solve that problem then I think hanging would work for me.

Anyway it is really quite depressing for us hard-gainers to read about people gaining an inch in 6 months or 2 inches in a year. It might not be depression as much as anger you feel. It just doesn't seem fair why some people gain by blowing on their unit and others like I beat it to hell and we get nothing. To be honest with you if I had not made gains in the 1st 6 months I would have dismissed this as BS. But I know it does work for some people, and I did gain something. So you keep thinking this is the week where I will gain.

The only thing I really haven't tried is an extended break. I have never taken more than 4 or 5 days off from PE. Maybe that is what I need. But with the constant new 'try the latest' post on these forums you feel like maybe some one has discovered something that will work for you. You jump in head first trying the latest, hoping that this routine will produce results.

It's good that a lot of the people on these boards offer encouragement for the PE challenged. Us hard-gainers need it. If you didn't how much a bigger penis would positively change your life hard-gainers would abandon PE within the first 6 months.

Thanks for this Forum! I hope more use it.

[Gandolf]

I'd like to add to RB's great advice

1.Don't measure very often. Never more than once per week, Once per month is probly the best.

2.Don't ejacualte before or after a workout. There is some speculation, but I really cn feel and see my dick temporarily shrink up when I cum. I try and keep jacking off down to 2-3 times per week. It is tough to do.

[luvdadus]

I was an easy gainer the first 2 or three months then a slow down. I appear to be in a plateau now or at least a period of very slow growth. After an 8 week rest I'm going to post a pitful gain on my pe anniversary tommorrow. I'm gonna have to seriously change up the routine I think to break this. I have always been neglectful of stretchs (mainly only did statics straight out) I found them tedious. I think I may re-review the dld blasters thread and the jai thread and put much more time into manual stretching. I may actually reduce my jelqs even further (I went from 50 min to 30 min and may go down to 15 or 20 min). I am considering vacuum pumping and maybe later on fooling around with ads. I don't think I have the time or privacy for hanging still. My wife is now aware of my pe efforts and knows what I've gained, so far she hasn't said any thing negative about it at all. She has made a few indirect encouraging comments. That is her way,she is never going to have a full all out sex conversation with me or any body other than maybe a close female freind and confident.

[AverageSized]

I'm not at the hard gainer, no gainer or easy gainer point yet.
Only really still in about my 1st 2 months...

So I'll check back in after about 4-6 months I think :D

But the female friend has told me, she's definetly noticed an improvement in erections for sure.

As for size, we'll see... as I don't get to see her that often with a long distance relationship, but it allows for me the chance to PE and she'll notice it more than someone who saw me everyday .. ;)

Not giving up... for at least a good year, even if it's not totally dedicated, trying to get in a good 5 days a week now.

[bonnie69clyde]

my first signs of improvement were harder erections. In 4/5 months, I think I've gained 1/4 inch in length and in girth... but I'm not sure. I'm pessimistic by nature. My pessimism tells me I measure wrong the first time... but then again, maybe I have gained 1/4 inch both ways.

[SirJelqAlot]

i gotta agree with RB on this. i must admit that i have just started to "go through the motions". which i personally think is understandable, after the novelty wears off. its hard to believe that the novelty could wear off having a bigger dick every few months. but im trying to focus on what im doing more. coming up on 1 year, want to hit my 1.5" gain which will put me at 8".

if i may, id like to add one more thing to RB's list:

set your own goals!

by this i mean, dont look at people like dld and say wow i want a 4" gain too. this happens to very few people (not to take anything away from dld's efforts). this mainly goes to people like darth vader 0.7" in two years, this shows a hell of a lot of determination, be proud of yourself.

i find that after i pay the odd visit to lpsg.org when all the guys talk about there 11"ers i feel like i should up my ultimate goal, but no, this is bigger than what i want.

sorry about rambleing,

SJA