Horseshoe concerns

[Darian]

Hi guys!

I have read so many success storied about the horseshoe bends that I am going to try them out. Its 13 months of PE now without any girth gains and I am hoping to get girth going with the horseshoes.
But in a way I am afraid of doing them as they seem to be quite dangerous.

Has anyone ever noticed a long term bend penis from doing Horseshoes? I mean its hardly possible to even out the pressure and intensity to all four directions and I fear that this will cause uneven gains resulting in a bend shaft.

Another concern which applys to all heavy duty sqeezing and bending routines is what the Moderators of the Mens Forte / Penile Fitness Forum are warning about. They say that intense girth routines like ulis, horses and horseshoes grow only scar tissue which is so hard that it cannot be improved any further. This may explain why alot of guys have strong initial gains with horses and horseshoes but stop gaining short after.

What do you think?

Best regards!
Darian

[RB]

I strongly urge all considering these moves to use utmost caution and listen to their prick. They can be performed very SAFELY and effectively if one is careful and diligent.

I have noticed nothing but even growth along my shaft. I only bend in three ways, side to side and down, and mostly do down. With enough blood pumped into your shaft and adequately clamped off, it doesn't take much of a bend (or bow) to get the desired effect.

I've not read the comments on the other forum you reference, but what you posted has NOT been my experience. Like anything, it is all dangerous unless you pay strict attention to what the hell you're doing. Hang or stretch with too much weight, you'll get hurt. Pump, jelq or squeeze with too much pressure, you'll get hurt. It's all up to you...

[BobbDobbs]

I think "horseshoe" is a bit misleading -- well, I guess if you aren't very erect you can get a "U" turn like that. But when you are really hard, you are barely flexing it and still getting a good stretch on the outward side.

That's really the benefit of flexes -- you can isolate sections of the outer sheath and thus apply more pressure -- a series operation rather than a parallel pull. So you can get more stretch for less effort, but the trade-off is time, you have to do the sections in series.

The other apparent benefit is by stretching the outer sheath and not the longitudinal ligs, the "balloon" will be able to puff out more on the sides (girth.) If you also stretched the ligs equally, then the extra outer sheath length would go to erect length rather than girth. IMHO

Anyhow, that's my theory. I just started the "erect flexes" so I don't know if they work or not. But I like the concept and the feel.

Update: Oh, and if you ever watched a plumber bend tight bends in copper tubing, you will see they slip a long tight fitting coiled spring over the area to bend. This helps distribute the bending force and prevents kinking. You can get the same sort of support by using your fingers of both hands along the shaft to distribute bending forces. This prevents kinking as well (which I think is a good idea to avoid!)

[Darian]

Hi!

Thanks for the comments.

So you guys are sure that erect bending would not lead to a permanently bent shaft if done correctly?

I tried my first easy session of erect bending today and already used that supporting technique you mentioned to prevent kinking.
But bending left and right seems to be a problem as the shaft bends up and down much easier and while bending to the left and right my shaft tends to twist around a bit band diagonally and not to the sides at all. I can prevent this by twisting it a bit to the opposite direction before the bend. Am I right that the left and right corpora cavernosa should be bent to the sides with this move?

Best regards
Darian

[doublelongdaddy]

Doing a "HORSESHOE" properly distributes even pressure along any one side of the penis. If you are doing the exercise correctly you should be doing all 4 sides on the penis. The bottomby holding at the base and directing your head downward. The Upper part By reverseing this bend the right and left side by anchoring at the base and rolling in that direction. There should never be a kink in the bend. It is slight and smooth and done in a rolling motion to ensure even girth gains.

[Darian]

Hi DLD!

I have read your posts about the horeshoe, but what do you mean by "rolling"?
Is this just bend and hold or is there more movement incorporated?

Thanks
Darian

[doublelongdaddy]

I am not at my computer right now so I can't repost the image. I think I may shoot a quick movie showing the whole exercise if I can get the confidence up. The rolling motion is slight along the bend. One hand is anchored at the base and the other hand is below the glans...the area in the middle along the line of arch should be rolled lightly along that arch back and forth.

[RB]

Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
I think I may shoot a quick movie showing the whole exercise...

Great. Now I have to go buy a widescreen monitor... :)

[dickgrow]

DLD,

Please post a clip of this rolling motion as I dont get it either. I thought I understood it as basically rolling the kink up and down, but if there is no kink, I dont understand how to "roll"

thanks,

dickgrow

[pole]

Originally posted by Darian
Hi!

But bending left and right seems to be a problem as the shaft bends up and down much easier and while bending to the left and right my shaft tends to twist around a bit band diagonally and not to the sides at all. I can prevent this by twisting it a bit to the opposite direction before the bend. Am I right that the left and right corpora cavernosa should be bent to the sides with this move?

Best regards
Darian

I have this twisting motion while bending to the sides too; lil'bit like a bruiser 180 motion, but with clamping off at the base.

So far only benefits(growth) from this.

Take care,

pole

p.s.: hope everybody's doing well. Will come back soon :)

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by dickgrow
DLD,

Please post a clip of this rolling motion as I dont get it either. I thought I understood it as basically rolling the kink up and down, but if there is no kink, I dont understand how to "roll"

thanks,

dickgrow

I will see what I can do. It was real hard just taking new pictures and the thought of video scares me. But I will see what I can do. But rolling the kink up and down if correct, I just don't call it a kink...For me it is more of a smooth arch and the point of arch or as you call it "Kink" is what I roll.

[doublelongdaddy]

DLD's Horseshoe bend

I get 100% erect. I proceed to do a 30 Second Horse Shoe Bend as the picture illustrates. During this 30 seconds I trap all the blood at the extreme base with the standard OK grip and using the other hand I bend my cock in a horse shoe shape, while in this shape I roll the penis back and forth. By the end of this minute my penis is about 80% erect. The bend IS NOT EXTREME, it is slight at firts and as your erection subsides the arch becomes greater. I do these downward, upward, to the left and to the right.


http://web.ecomplanet.com/JEN7986/ServerContent/MyCustomImages/JEN7986CustomImage0332058.jpg

[HughJorgan9]

I've done "bends" before where I am about, say, 75%+ (not full) erect, and then VERY SLOWLY AND GENTLY bend to the left, right, up and down...I don't grab the base or around the head real hard, but hard enough to get the bend...if you do it VERY GENTLY you will feel a nice burning stretch in the sides...I think the name "horseshoe" is what is causing so much controversy...someone on here might actually try to bend the damn thing in half...maybe consider changing the name to "boomarang bends" or "DLD Bends" or something more accurately describing the angel of bend...since that is more of the angle I bend it...if I am close to fully erect, I can't bend it very much without feeling an incredible burning stretch...haven't done them enough to get an noticible results, just used them as something different...

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by HughJorgan9
I've done "bends" before where I am about, say, 75%+ (not full) erect, and then VERY SLOWLY AND GENTLY bend to the left, right, up and down...I don't grab the base or around the head real hard, but hard enough to get the bend...if you do it VERY GENTLY you will feel a nice burning stretch in the sides...I think the name "horseshoe" is what is causing so much controversy...someone on here might actually try to bend the damn thing in half...maybe consider changing the name to "boomarang bends" or "DLD Bends" or something more accurately describing the angel of bend...since that is more of the angle I bend it...if I am close to fully erect, I can't bend it very much without feeling an incredible burning stretch...haven't done them enough to get an noticible results, just used them as something different...

Good Looking HughJordan9 this is very true.

The New Name is : DLD BENDS

[nitro]

Yes a movie or a gif would be a good idea. You guys are having trouble trying to figure that exercise out, imagine me,whose english is not the birth language

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by nitro
You a movie or a gif would be a good idea. You giuys are having trouble trying to figure that exercise out, imagine me,whose english is not the birth language

does the picture help you at all? I will try to put something together soon. Stay Tuned.

[Darian]

Hi!

I think I got what you mean by "rolling" motion.
In a downward bend you are moving the highest point of the arch slowly from base to top and reverse in order to get an even stretch, right?

CU
Darian

[nitro]

Originally posted by doublelongdaddy


does the picture help you at all? I will try to put something together soon. Stay Tuned.

Yes the picture helped it a little, but I still cant figure out how to do the moviments.

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by Darian
Hi!

I think I got what you mean by "rolling" motion.
In a downward bend you are moving the highest point of the arch slowly from base to top and reverse in order to get an even stretch, right?

CU
Darian

You got it...now go and get that girth

[HughJorgan9]

This is how I describe how I do it...

with enough erection that you could barely penetrate, grab around the base with an OK sign, pinky up...with the other hand, pinky down, grab around the head with an OK sign...using the 3 fingers of the hand on the base as "support", GENTLY bend towards the 3 fingers and slightly push back with the fingers...you should feel a slight burn and stretch and your dick should be pumped full...hold for about 30 seconds...be very careful, this is not for beginners...rotate hands...as far as rolling, I can very slowly make the slight bend go up and down the shaft putting a little more pressure as the bend goes up and down...not sure if this is how DLD does it, but when I do it this way, I get as much of a pump as jelqs and it takes less time...last time I did it, I got 7+" throughout the shaft and 8" at the base...8+ by 8+ it looks like a freakin fire hydrant...

Again, these are not for beginners and are as dangerous as squeeze jelqs...BE CAREFUL...


HJ

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by HughJorgan9
as far as rolling, I can very slowly make the slight bend go up and down the shaft putting a little more pressure as the bend goes up and down

This is a very good explaination. I like to hit all four positions (up, down, left and right) For me this is the sigle best girth exercise.

[nitro]

Just did my first DLD shoes ( still dont know if I figured it out right) session. My veis got HUGE when I was doing the exercise, is it normal ? I also noted that my head got very bloated, is the head suposed to be exercised aswell ?

[HughJorgan9]

I just did the most intense DLD bend session I've ever done....it lasted only 20 minutes, but I am as pumped and thick as doing an hour of jelqs...hope the wife isn't horny tonight...I would have a tough time explaining the girth...she's not that excited about my PE anymore...enough is enough, she says...I still secretly wish I had 8" soft and 10+ hard...if I reached that goal, she'd cut me off...she's had 2 kids but doesn't want to go through labor pains again :) ... this is an advanced exercise, but they do seem to work...I'll see if the results are permanent...


HJ

[RB]

Nitro, this is normal, and is also why I don't recommend squeezing blood out of the head. Great move to work both girth and head.

[HughJorgan9]

Woke up this morning and was still plump and pumped, hanging 6 x 5 1/2 soft...veins are popping and my buddy is sore, sore, sore...the sides are sore to the touch, so I'm going to give it the weekend off and take extra vit. C & E...that was one intense workout...I am going to do these 3 times a week for several months to see what kind of results I get and I will keep everyone posted...as some of you may know, I have taken off hardcore PE for almost a year, just doing maintainence to keep my gains...but I've got the damn PE bug again, and really like this DLD bend...I have done them before, but never seriously did a regiment of them until now...also, I just ordered my old supplement regiment again, minus the yohimbe...I think yohimbe is great for taking right before sex when you want a strong bone, but not for taking every day, even in small amounts...


8 1/4+ x 6 1/2+ ... going for....who knows? who cares? I'll stop when my wife wants me to take a cold shower and drink coffee before bed...

HJ

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by HughJorgan9
...but I've got the damn PE bug again, and really like this DLD bend...
HJ

Thanks HughJordan9, I don't think the bug will ever leave me.

[nitro]

Originally posted by Darian


Another concern which applys to all heavy duty sqeezing and bending routines is what the Moderators of the Mens Forte / Penile Fitness Forum are warning about. They say that intense girth routines like ulis, horses and horseshoes grow only scar tissue which is so hard that it cannot be improved any further. This may explain why alot of guys have strong initial gains with horses and horseshoes but stop gaining short after.




Does is have a fundament or is it just pure speculation ? Anyone ?

[RB]

It's not been my experience.

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by nitro


Does is have a fundament or is it just pure speculation ? Anyone ?

Speaking for myself only, I have been doing DLD Bends for a while now with only good gains. I think the reason this speculation had gotten diluted over the past few months is originally people thought these exercises to be literal bending to extremes... Erect work is DANGEROUS when extreme care is not taken. Meaning Use You Heads. I changed the name from Horseshow Bend to DLD Bends purely for this reason. You are not bending your penis to break it, you are slightly, with extreme importance on slightly, bending to create controlled pressure to the desired side of exercise. I think a penis NEEDS to be fully ready for this regiment through months of steady, seasoned basic exercise before these exercises are done. A Newbie or even someone with an infrequent pe program could stand to hurt themselves seriously if preperation is not thorough.

[HughJorgan9]

Well said, DLD...your dick must be prepaired to handle this kind of exercise...if you haven't been to the gym before in your life, you don't go with a bodybuilder and try to keep up with him...you will seriously hurt yourself...same goes here...you must work up to this exercise...I would recommend stretches and jelqing for a minimum of 6 months to really get in tune with your dick and get it used to being exercised...

Big Al, DLD, RB, ... Someone should rate or catagorize all these exercises into classes; beginner (0-6 months), intermediate (6-12 months), advanced (1 year plus) ... I think many injuries could be prevented if everyone would follow some kind of PE guidelines...

just my 2 cents...



HJ

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by HughJorgan9
Well said, DLD...your dick must be prepaired to handle this kind of exercise...if you haven't been to the gym before in your life, you don't go with a bodybuilder and try to keep up with him...you will seriously hurt yourself...same goes here...you must work up to this exercise...I would recommend stretches and jelqing for a minimum of 6 months to really get in tune with your dick and get it used to being exercised...
HJ

I think I spent about 6 months until I started to develop some of these more custom moves. I did alot of it out of nessecity...It seemed that I would have gotten stuck at around the 9" x 6" point if I did not increase the intensity. I did not want to work any more than I was...as a matter of fact I wanted to work less. Doing the DLD Bends (Horseshoes) allow me to get a great girth workout mixed in with 700 stong jelqs...about a half an hour to 45 minutes. The DLD Blasters have kept me gaining in the length department consistantly...once a day for about a half hour. I still do hardcore fowfers all day, but I never feel like that is work...I am going to start doing the DLD Blasters in conjuction with my new bib starting next week so this should be interesting. I like to constantly re-evaluate my program and try to work smarter.