Idegard
12-14-2002, 01:53 PM
I think this message is interesting for everyone that uses jelqing as a PE-method. It's my experience, and to be honest, today I wished that I never heard of PE at all. It's written as a warning, so no one else will face what I've faced, but also as a request for helping comments.
I started jelqing in the late autumn 1999, and I was just about to turn 19 years old. I think the whole "do-it-yourself" PE-thing on the internet was pretty new back than. When I first saw the ad that said "enlarge your penis with simple exercises" (something like that) I just turned crazy.
About five years before I had stopped using public showers (in gymclass and quit all my sports) in puberty since my penis never did grow at all. And girls was ofcourse out of the question. To live this way in 19 years, and fret about it every day, and then find out that you actually can do something about it just freaked me out.
The paysite said:
5 minutes hot wrap and some stretching
40 minutes of jelqing
5 minutes hot wrap and some stretching
Exept for the first weeks, wich should be less jelqing. And this should be done seven days a week, or there would be NO reslults (it did actually say so, noone can do that 7 days a week for several months, so noone could demand their money back).
I also read at the old peforum before I started and reduced my schedule to 5 days a week, 40 minutes a day + warmup/warmdown.
My first jelqing session was just a couple of minutes. I remembered beeing rather nervous and that I had the problem that I was having full erection all the time. The day after that, I noticed that my veins were a little bit bigger, and it did look good. So I kept on gooing. I was jelqing for 2 months, 40 minutes, 5 days a week. I saw no improvement of size, but on the other hand it was just my impression, by some reasion I didn't check with a ruler. It was only the first day that I had the problem of having to hard erection while jelqing, the rest of the two months I did watch porn to keep it in 70/80% erection while jelqing. That's not very strange, I got used to the feeling and if I was nervous the first time, I was bored after a week. My erections in general was not effected.
Well, close to christmas the first "accident happens". I had read that you should not masturbate after a jelqingsession. Well, after 40 minutes it was hard not to. So I did that a few times, maybe 4 times in that two months and nothing strange happend. But the fift time changed my life. After the orgasm, I immediately felt that something was wrong. I had a fever-like feeling in my whole body and I had to go to bed. The day after that I woke up, feeling sick and I did not have erection. Before that day, I woke up without erection about 2 or 3 days a month in general, so I thought it was maybe one of these days. I thought it would be a good idea to not jelq that day sinde a was sick and the day after that I went on a holidaytrip with my father for 9 days and did not have the opportunity to jelq or masturubate at all. To my despair I noticed that I did not have ONE SINGLE erection in that 9 days. Before I had several spontanous erections a day (without even thinking about sex), and always in the morning when I woke up.
When I came home, I tried masturbating but I only had a sloppy erection. I waited one more week and it was the same. I started jelqing again (stupid, yes), because I was blineded by my goals. I kept on going for 4 more months. There were no improvements of erection in that time and I did not have one single erection in the morning when I woke up. After this 4 months I met a girl and we should have a one night stand. I thought that my erection would maybe be better with a girl but it didn't. We went on for hours but it was just sloppy. Not totally flaccid but about 80% of my earlier erections before the jelqing-accident. The day after that I stopped jelqing for good. I thought that it maybe would heal.
Today (I stopped in april 2000), it's still the same. Well, basicly, in a desperate attempt to make it right I used a vaacum-pump. I must have used way to much preassure because my veins got really big and blue. It's almost a year ago now, and they still look the same. It looks horrible and I hate it.
Another strange thing that came after the jelqing-accident was that my penis ALWAYS grows when I have to pee. It seems to increase the blood because it gets more length and girht. After I've peed it goes back to normal. I know that it's normal that a flaccid penis change in size every now and than but this is extreme. I can honestly not tell how big my flaccid is, because it's never the same. Sometimes it's about 2 incehs (like before I started), when I have to pee it's usually 3-4 inches.
It seems like I have messed things up really bad and I'll probably have to live with it for life. My message to you is:
- Never ever masturbate after a jelqingsession, even if it worked fine before.
- Be careful with the vacuumpump, it can make your thing look like crap for good. Use some kind of meter to see the preassure.
And please understand this: IT IS NOT PSYCOLOGICAL in my case. I always had erections in the morning and several "perfect" erections during the day before this jelqing-accident. Since than, I have never had a morningerction and NEVER had a spontanious erection at all. I have to use my hands and it takes a long while and it does not get near as hard as before. I eat good, use no drugs and I exercise (not PE ofcourse). I did never have problems with my erection before the accident and I've been up and down. Please, don't suggest psycological solutions, I have obviously broken something that controls the bloodflow.
I've learned something by this: The worst thing is not to miss something. The worst thing is to have the chance and than blow it for good.
I started jelqing in the late autumn 1999, and I was just about to turn 19 years old. I think the whole "do-it-yourself" PE-thing on the internet was pretty new back than. When I first saw the ad that said "enlarge your penis with simple exercises" (something like that) I just turned crazy.
About five years before I had stopped using public showers (in gymclass and quit all my sports) in puberty since my penis never did grow at all. And girls was ofcourse out of the question. To live this way in 19 years, and fret about it every day, and then find out that you actually can do something about it just freaked me out.
The paysite said:
5 minutes hot wrap and some stretching
40 minutes of jelqing
5 minutes hot wrap and some stretching
Exept for the first weeks, wich should be less jelqing. And this should be done seven days a week, or there would be NO reslults (it did actually say so, noone can do that 7 days a week for several months, so noone could demand their money back).
I also read at the old peforum before I started and reduced my schedule to 5 days a week, 40 minutes a day + warmup/warmdown.
My first jelqing session was just a couple of minutes. I remembered beeing rather nervous and that I had the problem that I was having full erection all the time. The day after that, I noticed that my veins were a little bit bigger, and it did look good. So I kept on gooing. I was jelqing for 2 months, 40 minutes, 5 days a week. I saw no improvement of size, but on the other hand it was just my impression, by some reasion I didn't check with a ruler. It was only the first day that I had the problem of having to hard erection while jelqing, the rest of the two months I did watch porn to keep it in 70/80% erection while jelqing. That's not very strange, I got used to the feeling and if I was nervous the first time, I was bored after a week. My erections in general was not effected.
Well, close to christmas the first "accident happens". I had read that you should not masturbate after a jelqingsession. Well, after 40 minutes it was hard not to. So I did that a few times, maybe 4 times in that two months and nothing strange happend. But the fift time changed my life. After the orgasm, I immediately felt that something was wrong. I had a fever-like feeling in my whole body and I had to go to bed. The day after that I woke up, feeling sick and I did not have erection. Before that day, I woke up without erection about 2 or 3 days a month in general, so I thought it was maybe one of these days. I thought it would be a good idea to not jelq that day sinde a was sick and the day after that I went on a holidaytrip with my father for 9 days and did not have the opportunity to jelq or masturubate at all. To my despair I noticed that I did not have ONE SINGLE erection in that 9 days. Before I had several spontanous erections a day (without even thinking about sex), and always in the morning when I woke up.
When I came home, I tried masturbating but I only had a sloppy erection. I waited one more week and it was the same. I started jelqing again (stupid, yes), because I was blineded by my goals. I kept on going for 4 more months. There were no improvements of erection in that time and I did not have one single erection in the morning when I woke up. After this 4 months I met a girl and we should have a one night stand. I thought that my erection would maybe be better with a girl but it didn't. We went on for hours but it was just sloppy. Not totally flaccid but about 80% of my earlier erections before the jelqing-accident. The day after that I stopped jelqing for good. I thought that it maybe would heal.
Today (I stopped in april 2000), it's still the same. Well, basicly, in a desperate attempt to make it right I used a vaacum-pump. I must have used way to much preassure because my veins got really big and blue. It's almost a year ago now, and they still look the same. It looks horrible and I hate it.
Another strange thing that came after the jelqing-accident was that my penis ALWAYS grows when I have to pee. It seems to increase the blood because it gets more length and girht. After I've peed it goes back to normal. I know that it's normal that a flaccid penis change in size every now and than but this is extreme. I can honestly not tell how big my flaccid is, because it's never the same. Sometimes it's about 2 incehs (like before I started), when I have to pee it's usually 3-4 inches.
It seems like I have messed things up really bad and I'll probably have to live with it for life. My message to you is:
- Never ever masturbate after a jelqingsession, even if it worked fine before.
- Be careful with the vacuumpump, it can make your thing look like crap for good. Use some kind of meter to see the preassure.
And please understand this: IT IS NOT PSYCOLOGICAL in my case. I always had erections in the morning and several "perfect" erections during the day before this jelqing-accident. Since than, I have never had a morningerction and NEVER had a spontanious erection at all. I have to use my hands and it takes a long while and it does not get near as hard as before. I eat good, use no drugs and I exercise (not PE ofcourse). I did never have problems with my erection before the accident and I've been up and down. Please, don't suggest psycological solutions, I have obviously broken something that controls the bloodflow.
I've learned something by this: The worst thing is not to miss something. The worst thing is to have the chance and than blow it for good.