DLD, what you're feeling while blasting question

[RB]

Bib, Hobby and I are discussing the structural physiology of dick ligs over at thunder's on the hanger's forum (I don't hang, but a great place to pick up info for manual stretching). Hobby likened the ligs to a group of bungee cords attached to each other via lots of small springs. The cords are the collagenous tissue, and the springs are the elastin tissue. Very basically the theory is that when we stretch, the "springs" give and stretch quite a bit, until we reach a point where they can be stretch no more, and we then are putting the load on the "bungee cords", which don't stretch near as much.

When you blast away, do you pull as hard as you can, past the point of stretching these "springs", to where you feel the full pull is on the "bungee cords"? Or are you staying right at the level of where you feel the easy stretch ending?

I ask because the last two mornings I've gotten up early to do my 20 minute blasting session, after about 15 minutes it feels like I am well past the spring stretching, and further hard stretching of the "bungee cords", which don't give much at all, seem to make my dick want to retract well past normal. When I complete the set, my flaccid is really retracted, and hardons througout the day when I'm doing bends don't seem like they are as long as usual.

I think perhaps I'm pulling too hard, and envoking some sort of penis defense mechanism... Just curious what your thoughts. When I blast, I pull as hard as I can without pulling my dick free from my grip. Are you pulling to the max as well, or just below it?

[Insane_man]

Your muscle's "stretch reflex" is the central concept of JAIs.
When you stretch your muscle fully (any muscle), it will retract as a result. By alternating betwwen a very short and intense contraction to a very short and fairly intense stretch, you can overcome the strech reflex.

[RB]

I see what you're saying, but this feels like more of a shaft/lig issue, and since there is very little smooth muscle tissue in the shaft, I don't think that is happening. Who knows though, I'll try AI blasters tomorrow and see if thats any better. Right now I'm doing the standard blaster, 5 second rk pull followed by 5 second k pull, repeated in sets of 6 (one minute) then switch hands, 20 sets total.

[SirJelqAlot]

i was thinking about the bungee-spring theory, and agree with the fact that at the beginning you find treching easier and then resistance increases to the point where you are streching against the tough part of the ligs (ie you have fatigued the more elastic part and so they are much more flexable).

the way i prefer to think of the lig is as a coiled spring, and you can strech this easily up to a point (physics people will no this as the elastic limit*) and when you let go this section of the ligs can be streched out again with a fraction of the force, then you come to you come to streching a straight piece of wire as the spring as been streched straight, obviously the wire is far more difficult to strech than the spring, but i believe streching thi point causes the perminant gains.

*the elastic limit of a spring is the point reached where the spring no longer returns to its origional length <b>after all forces are removed</b>.

to answer your question, i think you should pull to the max, and if possible (safely) pull slightly beyond it.

it has always been my view that you should do as much as you can, then try for more. obviosly dont go nuts.

SJA

p.s i realise your question was addressed to dld, so feel free to ignore this post.

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by SirJelqAlot
i was thinking about the bungee-spring theory, and agree with the fact that at the beginning you find treching easier and then resistance increases to the point where you are streching against the tough part of the ligs (ie you have fatigued the more elastic part and so they are much more flexable).

the way i prefer to think of the lig is as a coiled spring, and you can strech this easily up to a point (physics people will no this as the elastic limit*) and when you let go this section of the ligs can be streched out again with a fraction of the force, then you come to you come to streching a straight piece of wire as the spring as been streched straight, obviously the wire is far more difficult to strech than the spring, but i believe streching thi point causes the perminant gains.

*the elastic limit of a spring is the point reached where the spring no longer returns to its origional length <b>after all forces are removed</b>.

to answer your question, i think you should pull to the max, and if possible (safely) pull slightly beyond it.

it has always been my view that you should do as much as you can, then try for more. obviosly dont go nuts.

SJA

p.s i realise your question was addressed to dld, so feel free to ignore this post.

RB I agree with SJA. My flaccid size will vary depending on how hard I train that day, but ultimately I am looking towards long term, permenant growth and it always comes. I have been doing Blasters for a while now and notice all sorts of feelings, looks, etc. BUT ULTIMATELY I continue to gain. I think there is always a mediation period between length changes. I am still trying to cement 11" some days I go beyond this measurement and some days I strle to hit it but I remember the same thing at 10...9...8" The gains do come.

[SirJelqAlot]

i seem to have had an epiffany (sp?), when streching in the beginning you are doing the easy streching and getting your dick loose then you are streching for gains, so it would appear to me that while streching as you go further into the excersise you should pull harder to go for perminant gains. i have changed my outlook slightly, before my opinion was strech and hold, and the penis would "get used" to this streched state and remain streched. hmmm, i shall meditate on this and perhaps change my streching routine accordingly (i currently do a modified set of the blasters)

SJA