Products that make your balls bigger

[mike2002]

I've read in the forums from elitefitness.com that HCG and Clomid are great products to make your balls bigger. Another one is Proviron. All these are anti-estrogen products. People who use steriods get a big side effect from taking them; that is shrunken testicles and gyno. I took androstenedione, a smaller building block of steriods, four years ago. But I still got the same side effects such as small testicles and gynecomastia(bitch tits). Nolvadex is excellent for getting rid of gyno and preventing them from happening. I'm thinking of taking these either by pills or injecting them. But you need a prescription I believe. Steriod users usually take these products, especially HCG, to restore their testes back to their original shape and even to make them a lot bigger than they were before. Here are some threads. You can do a search for HCG and Clomid.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ight=hcg+testes
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...light=testicles

Someone tried this and worked:
HCG - 5000 IU ed FOR 7 DAYS
CLOMID - 200 MG DAY ONE IN 4 DOSES AND 50 MG/DAY FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS
ADD NOLVADEX AT 20 MG/DAY AS HCG WILL CAUSE A RISE IN ESTROGEN AS WELL

But taking HCG alone gets results. And the good thing about these drugs is that they are permanent, not like damiana.

[hobby]

>I've read in the forums from elitefitness.com that HCG and Clomid are great products to make your balls bigger. Another one is Proviron. All these are anti-estrogen products.

No, they aren't "anti-estrogen products." In fact, they are likely to raise estrogen levels as excess testosterone aromatizes.

HCG is human chorionic gonadotropin. It sends essentially the same signal to the testicles as luteinizing hormone (LH).

Clomid boosts the whole hypothalamus/pituitary/gonad axis. The hypothalamus secretes more GnRH (gonadotropin releasing hormone), which in turn causes the pituitary to produce more LH (luteinizing hormone) and FSH (follicle stimulating hormone).

When properly functioning testicles are sent the signal to make more testosterone (via an increase in LH), they may increase slightly in size as they ramp up production. But at what cost? As testosterone increases, so does its aromatization into estrogen. High estrogen levels can cause all kinds of problems.

High testosterone and/or estrogen, particularly estradiol (E2), act as negative feedback to the body's natural testosterone regulation mechanism. The hypothalamus sees the levels are high and says, "Golly, there's way too much here, bettter slow down production." And what happens then? Hint: it's not good.

If it ain't broke, don't break it. If you wish to manipulate hormones without getting into too much trouble, you'd better learn a helluva lot more than the dipshits in the threads linked above.

Sorry to be so blunt, but I don't want some 18 year old ignorant newbie to screw himself up by using HCG or Clomid regularly in a misguided quest for bigger balls.

[wanttolearn]

Neither Clomiphene Citrate (Clomid) nor Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) are pure aromatase inhibitors - they're what's called selective estrogen receptor modulators...they act as antagonists in regards to the cells that rely on the AF-2 (by receptor modulation) receptor for growth (breasts, fatty tissues) and act as agonists towards cells that rely on the AF-1 receptor (by increased estrogenic activity - the bone tissue etc.,).

Clomid functions effectively as well to stimulate natural test production towards a normal state if it's been suppressed...some say it's through direct glandular stimulation - but that's doubted...it seems more that they stimulate test production by blocking the pituitary/hypo inhibition through it's agonistic AF-1 effects. Nolvadex has a more profound effect upon the the AF-2 receptors and is the method of choice in reducing/eliminating early signs of gynemastasia...both within BB and the Medical community.

Neither will result in testosterone levels to the point of excess/aromitization...

Proviron (Masterolone) is an anabolic agent that acts as an anti-aramotaze...no one really knows why...though anabolic...it's not effective for increased muscle/strength.

HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadrotropin) mimmicks LH...I avoid growth hormones so I don't know any more about it - they're too exotic.

Unless you're experiencing the onset of gyno or need to return natural test production after supression...there's absolutely no reason to mess with any of these...they won't make your balls bigger...

[mike2002]

Originally posted by wanttolearn

Unless you're experiencing the onset of gyno or need to return natural test production after supression...there's absolutely no reason to mess with any of these...they won't make your balls bigger...

I have gyno problems. What do you suggest me take and at what dosage? Thanks.

[wanttolearn]

Did you get it from gear? Is it just appearing or been around for a long time?

If you're just getting it - get a pure aromitase inhibitor like Aromasin/Letrazole - the aromasin 2.5 MG's EOD - letrazole 2.5MG's ED with nolvadex at 20 MG's per day for at least a month...or until a couple weeks after the symptoms subside...

If it's from gear like anadrol (which is progestenic) - you need to get some stanozolol (winstrol) immediately to compete with the progesterone receptors or RU486 [virtually impossible to get]...if it's from something like trenbelone (increases prolactin) - you need bromocriptine to inhibit prolactin. These should knock it out - if caught very early (before fibrous tissues appear) even with bromo/winny you need an anti-E and the nolvadex...

If it's been around for awhile...you "might" be able to treat it with stuff like nolvadex 40-50MG's per day/yohimburn combo & there's some new stuff from England called Andractim http://www.secure-sales.org.uk/sexual-health-doctor/gynaecomastia.shtml - some guys are having luck with those/different combinations of them - if that doesn't work...surgery's your only option - you can usually get insurance to pay for it if you say it causes you pain when you sleep (rolling on your chest)...and you've had it since childhood.

hope that helps!

[hobby]

If you are developing gynecomastia that wasn't obviously caused by "gear," see a doctor before self-treating. You said you took prohormones 4 years ago. Anything since? Has it worsened for no discernable reason?

Often gyno isn't caused by an underlying problem, but occasionally it is. Prolactinomas or cetain types of nut cancer can cause it. The doc should examine you to determine if you actually have gyno and then run tests on at least total T, free T, estradiol, and prolactin.

I've grown some tit tissue over the past few years. I finally went to the doctor a few months ago. My T is low and estradiol relatively high. Too much beer combined with being inactive and almost 40 lbs. overweight is likely the cause. The prescription in my case is no alcohol, more exercise, better diet, and zinc supplementation. Then see where I'm at. Unfortunately, I have some nodular tissue that has been in place long enough I'll probably eventually have to have it cut out.

[wanttolearn]

even if it's related to anabolic therapy - or those prohormone things...don't mention either to your Dr. unless you trust him/her incredibly well.

No reason to get a big black mark on your medical history...

As well...I'd avoid prohormones - less is known about them and their potential sides than anabolics...controlled risks are one thing - crapshoots are an entirely different ballgame. I'm not an advocate for anyone to use chemicals per se...but make sure if you do - regardless of what it is...you know within a relative degree of confidence what should & "could" happen.

Hope it works out for you...gyno can suck.