Extenders

[jazz]

I just posted a similar question in Thuder's forum, and realize that this has been asked a few times on the forum, most recently in the Jes Extenrder thread that is still active. However, in doing searches, I was unable to come up with a good conclusion and thought that by restarting the thread with more of a general topic line than being specific to the Jes - Extender, it might get more responses.

Has anyone bought a medium priced extender like the one from www.andromedical.com or any other medium priced extenders? If so, what have been your experiences, progress, etc.?

Thanks for all input.

[nofear]

The one from Andro is called the PeniStrecther and is a German made device. I received mine about 13 days ago and have been using it 90-120 minutes per day. If you search this site using penistretcher as the keyword you will see posts from Tekcon and seanseattle stating their gains from using this device. I won't measure until the 6-8 week mark.

[jazz]

nofear-

Thanks for the reply.

Did you order the one from www.penistretcher.com or the one from andro? How comfortable has is it been to wear?


Jazz

[nofear]

I ordered the one from penistretcher.com. I didn't push it the first couple days so I could get a good working knowledge of the device and to adapt to wearing it. With less tension involved I wore it about 3 hours per day for the first 5-7. Then I increased the tension and wear it 1.5-2 hours. The head does have a tendency to retract, but not slip out completely, in the noose which reduces tension. Constantly re-positioning but I am careful not to over tighten the noose.

[Determined]

Hey guys
I just received my device from andromedical..
It is a very well put together device.. It does look like it had alot of thought in it. I wore it for a few hours and it did not slip. I think I am going to like it I will post my measurements as time goes by.

[jazz]

Good luck.

I also ordered one from andro and expect to get it sometime next week. I will keep you posted as to my progress.

[Stillwantmore22]

Yea they put a lot of thought into everything except how to wear it all day like they say you can on their site. I found the device (penistretcher) too impractical. I could only wear it MAYBE an hour at a time before having to take it off because of glans irritation. I found the noose would irritate my glans around the 'neck' for lack of better term for that area behind the glans. I also experienced numbness. I could not wear it going about any sort of regular work/non work day as the rods were constantly unscrewing themselves. I even had an occasion where I stopped in a bathroom to check the device and my penis....and on one side a pair of rods had completely unscrewed from themselves. Not to mention that I had problems with the exposed screw threads at the base of the device grabbing my leg hairs while walking. OH, another issue I had was with the noose .....the rubber noose would dig into the skin behind the glans AND when I would go to take off the noose....the skin was already tender under the noose...the noose would often be stuck to the skin and this was not pleasant! I tried wrapping with some gauze to no avail. Still uncomfortable and impractical to use this device. Just my personal experience. I didnt wear it long enough (torture myself long enough I should say) to get any gains.

[nofear]

After the first day or so I thought it was impractical as well especially to wear it for an extended period of time. Then I made some changes. First I used vaseline around the area the noose would contact to avoid the irritation and sticking then wrapped with self-sticking gauze (sticks to itself and not the skin). I then tightened, as strong as I could, the mini-screws that hold the side bars together and used the screws at the base to apply tension. The base screws can add an additional inch or so of length to the device. Without the base screws pivoting outward the device would either be too short or too long for most users because the side bars are fixed lengths.

[jazz]

Determined.

How is it going with the extender from andro?


Jazz

[Determined]

Well its been about 10 days of using it. The first 10 days are the initial phase before the real phase according to the instructions.
It gets you use to wearing it. I started taking measurements before I started using it. I haven't measured againg yet.
However, I believe I can see a little difference already. Its not that easy wearing this thing all day but I believe if you follow their routine of wearing it, you will see results. I have been wearing it 4 hours in the morning and 4 hours in evening. My penis feels meatier already..... Even though its hard to wear it for that many hours, I believe it will give gains.. I really feel something good happening to many penis as far as gains are concerned. I am going for it and sticking it out with the routine. I do believe its going to work.

Jazz, did you get yours yet ????

[jazz]

I hope to get mine next week. I will keep you upated on my progress.


Good Luck.

[Determined]

Hey Jazz,
Did you get your device yet?? If so have you tried it yet??

[Tekcon]

Just thought I'd add my two cents in... I must say that as the more I do my pening, off an on... it has come to my attention that my length is because of using the PS.

Mostly because I figure it's like using a machine at the gym. Slowly but surely, you add on more weight... same thing. Slowly... and I do mean SLOWLY, you add on my tention, but know your tolerance.

Anyway... I'm at 8" EBP, and 8.5" flaccid stretched. Which is as high as the PS can go... needless to say I found a place that sells additional rods, and I can't wait to get them...

I'm hoping to hit the 10", but I would really just enjoy 9" EBP.

Once again, my routine with the stretcher is use it for 45 minutes a day at MAXIMUM stretch for me. This seems to work.

The theory behind the wear for 9-12 hours a day is that you don't use maximum tention... you just kind of let it hang there and don't let it retract.

Hope everything works well for all those who are buying, or currently using stretching.

[Determined]

Hey Tecon
How much did you gain in length using this method.
I have got to say that using this thing for 8-12 hours a day is very hard. If I can get the same results from wearing it for 45 minutes a day at full extension then it would be greatly worth it to me to do that.

[Tekcon]

Um... I'd say that it took me a long time...

When I first bought it, it was my sophmore year in college. I think I used it sparingly because I lived with a roommate, and trying to find times to put it on was a bitch.

I then started using it again my second semester of my junior year when I was living in my own place (long break since using it).

I started out using both rods, at the base (for people who own it, they know what I'm talking about.) Throughout the semester I was able to slowly, I mean slowly up the tention and now I'm at the point where I have extended the rods to the max (8.5" stretch). So, I'd say I was about maybe 7" or a little less, and over the course of maybe 6 months managed to increase an inch in length.

Beautiful thing is, that while my length did increase, my girth didn't decrease (probably do to the cell division of the stretching) and didn't increase either. Probably where jelqing would have helped. So now I'm at 8" EBP, 8.5" Stretch. Need new rods, so I can continue my increase in length.

So it is a possitive way to measure your self. Because you know you've grown when you can increase the tention in the stretcher. Just be careful and remind yourself that this doesn't happen over night. It worked for me, I'm going to continue to use it, but only at the 45min at maximum stretch.

You can usually tell your at the maximum stretch because the base of the stretcher feels like it is digging into the base of the penis and ball sack after 30-45 minutes, and the ring around your head starts to get irritated. I used to go numb in the head because I used it too much, but after I started doing smaller sessions, it started to feel much better.

It says in the manual (if you plan on doing the 10-12hr a day) that the head shouldn't get cold or numb. Which I can't understand why, because you have got to secure the head, or the damn thing slips out, so I figured forget this flaccid 12hr stretch, and just go for the maximum stretch sessions... it's paid off so far.

later

[slim pee p]

I would give the penimaster a look before you spend 300 to 1,000 on a penistretcher or the jes extender. The penimaster is basically the same device except it has a different noose, and it looks like it might be more comfortable.
And it costs 149.00

Ive been seriously thinking about getting one

http://www.a-mans-world.com/penimaster.htm

[Determined]

Hey Jazz,
Did you get your Extender yet? If so what do you think?
I have been using mine now for a couple of weeks. It seems like its doing something. I haven't measured yet. I am going to wait a full month before I do.

[jazz]

I got the stretcher last week and have been using it for about 2 hours a day. Only time will tell if it works. I will say that the product has proven fairly easy to use and has been more comfortable than I thought it would be. If I have any progress, I will be sure to report it.

Good luck.

[Tekcon]

Just got my rods today in the mail, so I have a 10" stretch potential to expect in the next 6 months. So, I'm hoping by the time I max out, that I'm just a little of 9.5" EBP, and about 8.5" to 9" NEBP.

Catch ya guys later.

[mike2002]

Tekcon, have you tried using the extender with a 50 or even 100 percent erection? Are you going to experiment with that..do you think it might give you gains?

[experienced]

Just ordered the stretcher at penistretcher.com. I'm eargerly awaiting it's arrival in the mail!

[slim pee p]

Cool!! It looks like a few people are ordering stretchers. You ordered the penistretcher, Today i finally put in an order for the penimaster. Hope we all have some success with them.

[Tekcon]

Um, I haven't tried stretching at 100% errection, mostly because the grip that keeps the head clamped down, doesn't get blood supplied to it (that's why after awhile, it gets cold and numb). So when you do get an errection, it actually becomes a little bit painful and discomforting.

As for anywhere about 50%, that's usually where I start out, just so I have enough blood in the glands to get a secured stretch.

Since I have been using the PeniStretcher with the silicon noose, I'm very interested to hear whay people who have the PeniMaster have to say about it's noose design to lock down the glands. It looks like it is a bit more comfortable, and can provide a better clamping down action.

Just a note. Stretchers take time and money. Besure that you're absolutely possitve before buying one. Results don't come over night, but it's a great feeling when you are able to up the tention because you have GROWN!

[slim pee p]

Yeah it definately looks more comfortable. In the faqs some people say that they wrap a little something around the shaft below the head before attaching the noose. Can't wait to get it

[dino775]

Slim


That thing looks pretty good and the price is ok, let me know how it is when you get it.


Dino

[slim pee p]

Dino i sure will let you know whats up. If you decide to order the penimaster do not order from this link http://www.penis.info/English/Das_Gerat/das_gerat.html. I tried emailing all three of their support service to get a few simple answers. The site said you would get a response in 24 hours. I got no response, so i went to another place http://www.a-mans-world.com/penimaster.htm and i was emailed in a very fair amount of time. I respested that big time.

[northstar]

The price was quite reasonable (unlike the JES, what the hell are they thinking?), and looks relatively comfy.

I'll let you know how it goes.

I've always been a little reluctant to strap heavy weights to my cock, and as jelqing seems to be failing to produce any gains (after 1 1/2 increase in length), I'll give these contraptions a whirl.

Actually, constant tension over a long period of time always sounded to me like the ideal method for PE.

The body, quite simply, has no recourse but to adapt.

I just hope it's comfortable enough for extended wear.

(I'm going to alternate it with a wrist wrap/ulie/tournique thing for girth.)

Cheerio!
Northstar

[Tekcon]

I would have ordered the PeniMaster had it been released prior to me buying my PeniStretcher.

It's funny about the Jes Extender is, that it was the first around. But then someone took the idea and made it the PeniStretcher, no from that is the PeniMaster. Each costing less.

In a few years, you'll probably be able to find the exact design that is a little more comfortable for about $50.00.

Later

[Stillwantmore22]

Wow, that does look more comfortable than the other similar style stretchers. Lot less costly too. But, I'm sticking with my Blasters! AHEM....see my signature;)

[Tekcon]

To each their own. :)

[pemonsta8]

i just built my stretcher based on zeke's post over at thundersplace. has anyone else had any luck with homemade stretchers?

[AnotherGuy]

I purchased the Penimaster. Probably won't be here till the end of the month though. Going for 8.5" ELBP or a lil bit past my belly button. currently at 7-1/8" ELBP x 5-3/4" EG. Might go for the extra .25" of girth in the meantime:cool:

[golarge]

Has anyone had luck with keeping the glans warm(aka keeping good circulation) while using and extender. If yes, how?

Golarge!

[Tekcon]

I don't think it can be done at a maximum stretch. I usually use some toilet tissue to wrap around my head so there isn't as much noose irritation. But after 45-60 minutes of use the glands start getting cold do to lack of blood circulation.

If you keep your penis while stretched close to your body, you can have some warmth to it, however not enough for long periods of time.

You can use a stretcher and keep the head from getting cold, but in my experience, it doesn't work because I'm not really getting a stretch, and then it becomes pointless. Your just not giving as much of a pull as you would at max stretch, and the blood due to the noose still restricts from blood going into the head.

Hope this helps.

[Tekcon]

I finally got around to attaching the extra rods to my PS today. My God, it's a new stretch sensation.

Looking forward to many months of use until I need to upgrade again... if I need or want to.

Later

[ski-bop]

After reading this thread, I've become very intrested in purchasing a PeniMaster. But, first I have a question for those of you that actually have a PeniMaster. And that question is How much time would you say it takes to attach and remove the product? I would hate to have to use the bathroom and have to spend time fumbling with the product to remove it.

Also is their a bulge in your pants from wearing it?

Thanks for any help

[AnotherGuy]

I see some say it's difficult to wear past 1 hour at maximum stretch, but do you think you could wear it for 1 hour at a time 2-3 time's a day, about 4-6 hours apart? This is my dilemma, I still live at home and I really don't have a place to do manual stretching or hanging as I don't know when someone might come up into my room. But w/ the stretcher I could wear it under a loose pair of sweatpants while I'm online or watching TV and get some stretch in. Plus my ligs must be tight as hell because it's hard to gain for me. I'd say I might have gained 1" in length since I was 19 yrs old experimenting with jelqing and stretching, that's 1" in 3 yrs, of course it was sporadic at best. But girth I can gain w/ minimal effort, I'd say I gained 1/2" in the last 6 month's w/ off and on workout of no more than 5-15 minute's. Hope this stretcher works or I'll be cursed with a fat cock...is that such a curse...?

[jackthelad]

Hmmm i am also interested in the penimaster, i have tried hanging for 5 months with little or no gains and overal after 9 months of pe i have gained at best 1/4 inch. I am thinking of purchasing the penimaster and wearing it post hanging while in a fatigued state, i am running out of ideas otherwise, i am keen to give this device a go,

jackthelad

[Determined]

I have been wearing my extender for about 1 month now.
I haven't measured yet. But, when I get an erection it is longer.
I don't know exactly how much longer. But, listen to this, I though it was just in my mind that my penis was longer when erect until my wife said " Your cock looks great". Then after I had sex with her, it trapped air inside her pussy. This hasn't happened since I fucked her for the first time a long time ago. She doesn't know that I am doing any type of PE. She hasn't given me that type of compliment for a long time. I finally said something about the PE and she thought it was great.. She said I was fine the way I was but when I asked if I should stop or else go for another inch her reply was this.... "Go for it....a nice long cock on a man is always a plus"

[slim pee p]

Thats cool man. Its nice to hear the device is working. How many hours a day have you been wearing it ?.

[AnotherGuy]

Just got mine in the mail only took a week to get here. Looks good, straps are nice, feel very grippy and soft. I doubt they'll break too easily. Gonna try it on after I read the manual. But on first look quality seems great. Can't wait to try it out:D

[AnotherGuy]

After playing around w/ it for 30-40 minute's. I'd say putting it on and initially finding out what combination of rods is best is the most time you'll ever spend putting it on. With that said, it take's about 2 minute's to put it on once you get the hang of it(if that). taking it off is a breeze only take's about 5 seconds, pull the band out of the notch and out you go(putting it back in is the tricky part). As for wearing it comfortably, if you're not bothered by a third leg made of cold metal rods then my hats off to you(especially when the third leg goes half-way down your thigh). Under sweat pants it is pretty well concealed, not sure about jeans or khaki's. It is comfortable and It doesn't put any strain on my glans. I feel a tug at max stretch which is a pleasant pain, not really a pain but you feel it. All in all I rate this product highly, and maybe higher in a couple month's when we see what kind of gains I get.

I plan to wear the Penimaster for 2-3 hours a day. One hour at a time, and between 4-6 hours apart between wears. Probably 5-6 days a week, I think 12-21 hours of stretching is plenty for a week.

All in all I have to say I like the product. I have both hands free to do as I wish while I stretch. I can walk around the house freely, and work, play video game's, do pc work, and whatever else I might want to do without having to worry about anyone seeing me stretch my penis:thumbsup:

[Rowlo]

Another guy,

Where did you order your penimaster from? Also, is it wise to stretch and then power jelq, or power jelq and then stretch (with the penimaster of course). I want length and girth, but do not wish to compromise one for the other.

Thanks

[AnotherGuy]

Originally posted by Rowlo
Another guy,

Where did you order your penimaster from? Also, is it wise to stretch and then power jelq, or power jelq and then stretch (with the penimaster of course). I want length and girth, but do not wish to compromise one for the other.

Thanks

I would probably stretch for an hour at 80% - max stretch w/ the peni-master, then jelq, then stretch at a light setting for another half hour after jelqing to keep the penis stretched, then a light set of dry jelqs afterwards to restore blood flow.

I'm personally going for length right now as I'm satisfied w/ my 5-3/4" of girth for now, I'd like to reach 9" ELBP though, then another 1/2" of girth may be in the plans.

I ordered from the link posted in this thread on page 2 http://www.a-mans-world.com/penimaster.htm

[Degarmo]

Anotherguy... Please keep us posted about gains using this thing! I really want to see if it does what it claims. If everyone who buys it gets good gains I might buy one...

[AnotherGuy]

Originally posted by Degarmo
Anotherguy... Please keep us posted about gains using this thing! I really want to see if it does what it claims. If everyone who buys it gets good gains I might buy one...

definitely:D

I'll be doing no other length excercise's while I'm using the extender. I will be Jelqing at 80%+ erection for girth, but not heartily. I want my length now.

[Tekcon]

Originally posted by AnotherGuy


I'm personally going for length right now as I'm satisfied w/ my 5-3/4" of girth for now, I'd like to reach 9" ELBP though, then another 1/2" of girth may be in the plans.



How much does the initial stretcher give you to stretch? I know the PeniStretcher gives a 8.5" max stretch with all the initial equipment that is given. So I'm at 8" ELBP.

My extra rods give me 1.5" more to stretch with. So if things follow nicely, I'm and I hopefully will hit 9" to 9.5" ELBP.

Just curious if the PM has more stretching, or if you plan to get more rods for it.

Later

[slim pee p]

To answer your question Teckon, the penimaster will extend to 30 cm. That is something like 12 inches. Correct me if i am wrong on that. Basically you get all the rods you need with the penimaster.

[AnotherGuy]

Originally posted by slim pee p
To answer your question Teckon, the penimaster will extend to 30 cm. That is something like 12 inches. Correct me if i am wrong on that. Basically you get all the rods you need with the penimaster.

that is correct.

[experienced]

Just received my PeniStretcher and have it on right now!

Question: Am I supposed to feel a stretch in the ligaments near my pubic bone? Because I don't.. although my penis is currently stretched to a length I've never seen before (which is promising)!

FYI, I currently feel no irritation from the silicon based noose.

[slim pee p]

First off the instructions tell you to insert your penis into the noose first, then pushing the rods down to the base you slip the top on. Well i did that and i was not getting a real good stretch. So instead of doing the above i put everything on except the top. then i pull my penis straight out as far as i can then while holding it i strap it down with the noose. Then i crank out the tension screws. I have had the penimaster for 5 days now, wearing it for 3 to 4 hours a day, and im starting to get the old stretch marks on the shaft wich is great. I am really starting to like this gadget.
Experienced to tell if your feelin a stretch let the penimaster flop towards the ground and right at the base of you penis you should be feelin it

[Tekcon]

Damn, I ordered the wrong product... that or ordered at the wrong time.

Maybe if I do hit the 9" mark, I might be happy, but then again, I might want to go farther...

Well catch ya guys later.

[Tekcon]

Here are my indicators that I have a good stretch going on.

1. ) Equipment is in tip top shape.
2. ) I have about a 40-50% errection.
3. ) Put on base of stretcher
3. ) Take the head clamp off, and pad your fully gorged head in a cussion like substance and tie it off.
4. )Then I reattach the head clamp bakc to the Penistretcher and get it go.

Waring sings to look out for. : You feel like your head may slip out. It does happen, and hurts when it does. Watch out for getting skin caught on the screws in making your adjustments.

As soon as I give my full streth, I give a few soft kegals, followed by some strong kegals. If my head feels fine, after doing this then the rest of the stretch will go fine. You will have to adjust your comfort settings how ever you do it, but that is what I do with me.

I try to stay in that 40 - 50 area of errection, just to make sure there are enough cells there in the penis to break down, diffuse, and reform there for gaining.

Hope this helps... sorry for lack of words, and explananigs. I'm incredibly tired, and feel like I'm writting this as if if was my last peice to write......

[experienced]

Anybody ever try measuring their penis while it's in the extender?

Normally, I have a 5.25" erect non-bone-pressed length.

With the stretcher on, I have a a 5.75" flaccid non-bone-pressed length.

Basically it appears that my penis is being stretched .50" more than it's normal elastisity.

[nofear]

I have recently added the second pair of rods to the strecther but am having great difficulty keeping the head in the noose. If I go equal to or greater than my ELNBP measurement the noose gives free. It is really starting to frustrate me after about 30 days without a hitch. Tekcon and others any ideas?

[Tekcon]

The only thing I can think of is try a lower setting. Or, if you read my post above (I was heavily under meds when I wrote it so it might not be clear) this is what I do.

In the manual it says insert the penis through the base, and tie the head off with the noose.

Here is what I do.

I unscrew the two rods holding the head piece and noose on it. Insert my penis through the base. Then with the loose head piece. I tie the head down with the noose. So I have essentially two loose parts to the PS.

Then comes in the stretching part. I have to screw the head piece back onto the lower rods connecting to the base. Then there you go.

PS - I do a few dry pumps to force as much blood into my head prior to putting it through the noose. It makes it much more difficult for the head to come loose from the noose... damn that rhyms.

Hope this helps

Later

[Gardenier90]

I've been hearing very positive things about these stretchers. For those of you who bought the PeniMaster how did it come packaged? Was it a big or small box? I have some VERY nosey roommates (one happens to be my cuz). Does someone have to sign for the package? Sorry for the questions I sent the company an e-mail but no reply. Thanks.

[AnotherGuy]

Originally posted by Gardenier90
I've been hearing very positive things about these stretchers. For those of you who bought the PeniMaster how did it come packaged? Was it a big or small box? I have some VERY nosey roommates (one happens to be my cuz). Does someone have to sign for the package? Sorry for the questions I sent the company an e-mail but no reply. Thanks.

Mine came in a small white box, no penis words on it. I think someone had to sign for it but not sure. Get back to you on that.

[Rowlo]

How is the Penimaster working out for you so far and how long can you where it for now that you are use to it?
Let me know

[AnotherGuy]

Originally posted by Rowlo
How is the Penimaster working out for you so far and how long can you where it for now that you are use to it?
Let me know

works great and give's a great stretch, ligs feel fatigued after my stretch.

I'm not wearing it more than an hour at a time. I usually take a 15-60 minute break between stretch's. I'm only using it 3 hours a day too. Haven't used it in the past 2 days either as I was out partying..I'm only 22:D Wore it today and all I can say is wow that was a stretch!

As for length of wear, I'd say you could wear it for about 3 hours at minimum-medium stretch. Kinda difficult for me as I'm in an area where I need like .25-.5" less bar, but if I put the next smaller bar I can only get a minimum stretch with the base screwed all the way out.

[Gardenier90]

Which Company did you get yours from ANG?

[experienced]

Regarding the PeniStretcher..

Does any experience these problems:

1) The long rod isn't long enough to provide a good stretch
2) The long rod connected to the small rod is too massive resulting in not being able to get the penis head through the noose

?

[slim pee p]

Yeah i was having that problem too. i use the longest rod and the little one. Putting it on involves takin the tension screws all the way back to the bottom and pushing down on the stretcher while pullin out on the penis to a max stretch and straping it in. Than i reel the tension back out. I am getting a very nice stretch from this device.

[Tekcon]

Why is it when I posted questions and comments about stretchers a year or so ago, people told me I was wasting my money.

Now everybody has one. Sheesh... :)

Just kidding guys.

As to the PS question above. Mess around with screws at the bottom to adjust varing length.

Also check one of my previous posts about getting the maximum stretch without trying get the penis through the base and loop with one try.

Later

[experienced]

With both rods combined and the screws at the lowest possible setting, my penis still isn't long enough to reach the noose.

[slim pee p]

I guess you should go with the rod that fits your dick and wait till it reaches the length to fit the next size up. Good luck

[Gardenier90]

Has anyone payed for the PeniMaster using cash or international money order?

[jackthelad]

I sent 150 euros cash just the other day and emailed them to let them know i had done so. They emailed me back a few days later to confirm they had received my money and that i would get my order in 7 to 10 days,

jackthelad

[Rowlo]

Tekcon,
You mentioned that your Penistretcher after 2 years is now giving you a stretch of almost 9 inches. If you do not mind me asking, what is your flacid length and erect length?

Thanks

[wols0003]

(Penismaster) I sent a western union money order Feb. 28. They emailed me to notify me that they recieved the money order on March 6. March 18, they emailed me that the money order has still not cleared the bank. I would definately suggest paying with credit card. It appears that cashing money orders internationaly is a major waste of time. They have been helpful on the telephone and have replied to all of my emails. I'll keep you all informed.

[Tekcon]

Max Stretch = 8.5"
EBPL = 8"
Flaccid = 4-5" varying on temp, mood, and etc.

[Thorne]

To everyone using the PeniMaster: how's it working out for you?

[slim pee p]

Everything is workin good so far. Ive been keepin a log of the hours per day i use it. I have been wearing it for two weeks now. Getting more and more stretch marks on the shaft, which is a good sign. I usually use it at 100 percent intensity for at most 2 hours at a time. Im gonna try to use it while im sleeping, but at the lowest intesity so my peter doesn't fall off

[Tekcon]

I'd say test it first taking like a nap or so before you decide to go do the 6-8 hour sleep.

This should help you judge your ability to wear it while in slumberland.

[experienced]

Tekcon, what do you consider a safe maximum stretch? Now that I've managed to secure my penis into the noose while both rods are combined, I'm not sure how far I should go. I have a penis length of 5.25" ENBP. How far do you think I should stretch in the PS?

With me penis currently in the PS, I'm measuring the length from the synthetic material ring (where it meets the joint knob) to the end tip of the moulded synthetic material part and it's at 6.5" (pointed down to the ground).

[Stillwantmore22]

So, are any of you making gains yet with these stretchers? How much? Any of you ever tried the "Max Extender"??

[Thorne]

I'm actually considering getting the PeniMaster from www.a-mans-world.com , but I wish there was a place here in America that sold it for only $149.

I'm corresponding back and forth with the people at A Man's World (who are in Germany) and their use of the English language is so scrambled, I have no idea what they're talking about.
I mean, they answer my questions - but they answer them in such an ambiguous way that raises more questions and I have to keep e-mailing them back to clarify what they mean...and it all happens again.
It's an endless cycle.

I'm already on my 5th e-mail back to them.
I'm sure I'm irritating the hell out of them, because I know they're frustrating me a great deal.

It's unfortunate that Americans are such greedy bastards and charge up to $500+ for one of these things.

[northstar]

Sorry, but I know exactly what you're talking about.

When mine didn't arrive, I managed to get through to them. When I asked if it had been sent they responded:

"We'll look into it." Click!

They didn't even take my name.

However, a few emails have been sent back and forth, the problem found (it was mistakenly sent to Europe), and I believe it is on it's way.

I'll let you know when I receive it.

(I used my debit card to order)

Cheers!
N.

[Tekcon]

Gains yes, MaXtender, don't buy!

It is very painful, and very difficult to use and you can't wear it descretely.

(Yes I ordered one because it was cheap, and it wasn't worth it in the end, becuase now I have rope burns permanently on my unit.)

[Thorne]

Okay, they've stopped replying to me.

I was trying to get an exact answer on the price. In their e-mails they told me they only accept EUR and NOT US $, but on their site they say the price is $149. No mention of EUR at all.
Since I rarely pay for anything by credit card over the internet, I was asking about a money order payment option.
Their answers were always odd like, "Yes, that is correct."
So I had to write back and ask, "What is correct?"
Their answer was something like, "We only accept our money the EUR dollar, but US dollar is equal accept and appropriate. We have problems with dollars in Germany."

...

What the fuck does that mean?
So I asked them if they were saying they accepted both EUR and/or US$, but they write back and simply say, "No."

So what does "US dollar is equal accept and appropriate." mean and why even say they have problems with USD in Germany?

Confusing, man.

According to this site ( http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic ) my conversions for US dollars into Euro dollars is 149 US Dollars = 140.341 EUR and 149 EUR = 158.193 US Dollars right?
So, if I go to a bank here and ask for the exchange do I base it on 149 USD = 140 EUR or the 149 EUR = 158 USD conversion?
I'm assuming since on their site it says the price is 149 in US Dollars, the exchange should end up being 140 EUR right?

I guess when I asked them this their heads exploded because I haven't heard anything else from them.

They also gave me the address to send the cash to, but it looked like it had spelling errors in it, so I asked them to verify the address. No answer.

This sucks.

[Gardenier90]

If they do give you an adress for the cash would you please give it to me? I am having the same problems with communication and am getting VERY annoyed.

[Thorne]

I can send it to you in a Private Message if you want.

I don't know about the new rules around here now, so I don't know if posting their address in the open forum would be wrong.

[Gardenier90]

Yea pm me. Thanks!

[slim pee p]

I thought it was going to be equal to their dollar amount when i bought it, but it ended up being like 163.80 on my credit card statement. Oh well it beats the hell out of paying like 500.00 or so for other devices.

[Thorne]

With all of the spelling errors on their site and now that they're not responding and being extremely ambiguous when they do - I'm certainly not using a credit card with them.
Not a real way to ensure trust with me.

[Rowlo]

Sorry to hear the problems you guys are having. But I must admit, I did not hesitate when I got the information from Anotherguy. I used my credit card, they confirmed it with an email back to me. My credit card was billed 166 dollars 2 days later and I recieved it yesterday which I believe took 6 days. I did not email them and ask any questions at all. I think if you give them your credit card info and wait about 7 days or so, you will also receive your item just as others have. A mans world is where I ordered from and I again did not send them any emails what so ever. Just the credit card and I got my item very quickly and I am very happy and in about an hour, I am going to be very stretchy!

[Thorne]

To each their own. I, on the other hand am not so loose with my credit card.
I sent a few more e-mails and they started responding to me again, this time with few words in their sentences and not answering any questions.
The one thing I keep asking them is for a definite conversion rate.
I asked if using Western Union was acceptable, they replied back with "Sory no".
Yet someone else in this thread said they paid with WU and these people previously told me a Western Union money order would be fine.
I asked if $165.07 = 149 EUR, their reply: "Just pay with 149 EUR. It isnt hard."
Yeah, I understand it isn't hard to pay EUR...in EUROPE! But I'm asking about a conversion of USD into EUR, but they keep avoiding that for some reason. It's like they're trying to piss me off enough to where I'll just say, "Fine! Here's my CC#! You win!"

This really isn't worth the trouble, their attitude or their incompetence.
My questions weren't hard and they weren't asked maliciously.
I just wanted to know of their conversion rate, if they accept money orders and to double check their address for any spelling errors in case they missed it first time around.
They've never given me a conversion rate and they haven't said anything about their address...the only thing they keep reinforcing is "send 149 EUR - send 149 EUR - send 149 EUR".
Not a good way to conduct business at all.


I'm probably going to just shell out an extra $100 to deal with the good ol' Americans at Wenck Medical and get a Stretcher from them...assuming their stretchers are of the same quality that
www.a-mans-world.com is.

[slim pee p]

I would go with the penimaster. Ive had mine for a couple of weeks, and i love it. I ordered it from that same link Thorne and i had absolutely no problems at all. It was in my hands in 4 days after i ordered it. I think youll kick yourself for shellin out that extra hundred dollars for another device that you havent heard much about, and doesnt look as good either. this device comes with extra rods so you can extend it out to like a foot. Take a chance. !

[Rowlo]

Thorne I am sorry you feel the way you do.

I have used the Penimaster and I would have to personally say that this thing is very comfortable and I think it can be worn for hours. I wore it 2 1/2 hours yesterday and 4 hours today. At first I put it to its full potential and thought that this is no big deal, but man after about 30 minutes I can feel the ligs stretching. It is like an ache. I then just loosened up a bit. After an hour of being comfortable that way, I screwed in more traction. I just do not see how it would be possible for something else to give better length gains then this. Now I no I am new, but this thing gives you a stretch you can surely feel and you can wear it for hours on in. I would highly recommend the Penimaster as the loop style that I have seen look like they may hurt. Another plus about the penimaster is they give you 3 extra rods and I do not see how it would be possible for anyone to use all the rods 5 years from now!! Also they send you 2 extra supports. And these supports are comfortable. I am so happy with this Penimaster. Glad I found this site and much thanks to Another guy as I was going to buy the jes extender, then the andromedical, then the penistretcher, but low and behold what probably fits the best and cost the less.. Penimaster. A++++++

[wols0003]

Still waiting for my penismaster. Western Union Money order sent on Feb. 28--they said they recieved it March 5. I'll keep you all posted.

[ski-bop]

What amount did you make the money order out for in us dollars? If i choose to order thats the way i was deciding to pay for it.

Also i hope you get your order soon.

[Thorne]

Well, after one last e-mail to them with some choice words thrown in, they FINALLY reply with "ok send 165 dollar".

...

Nice to know it only takes about 8 e-mails to get that out of them.

I'm still considering the one at www.penistretcher.com instead of this one though.

Glad to know it's working for those who have it, but unfortunately my peace of mind is worth alot more and the 'mans-world' people really didnt do anything to help that. If anything, they did the opposite.

Oh well. At least I finally got one answer I was looking for from them.

[northstar]

Still waiting for mine also.

Of course, there was a mix-up, so...

I'll give her one more week then right it off.

Cheerio!
N/

[jackthelad]

Got mine today, it looks good an is comfortable, i plan on wearing it for several hours after i finish my hanging sessions to keep my penis extended. I think i have the device set at max extension now however i am not sure as in the manual it says when at max extension you should only see 1 of the marks on the rods, however i have adjusted the screw as far as it will go and still see 5. Could anyone who is using this device tell me iff i am doing something wrong or whether it is just worded wrong in the manual, cheers,

jackthelad

[northstar]

I'm impressed!

It's quite comfy, they mention for best results to wear it 8 hours a day. I'm not sure if this is possible, but...we'll see.

I'm quite sure this is a viable approach to PE. Your cock, held in traction for long periods of time, must adapt. It's a slow process, I'm expecting at most 1/4" per month, but for someone who has plateaued for over a year, if I manage these gains I'll be thrilled.

Overall, thumbs up for the Penimaster.

(However, I just received mine, I still have no direct evidence It'll work. I'll let you know by next month.)

Another nice feature of this...PE no longer needs to occupy your thoughts. Strap it on, let time and physics do it's thing.

Liberating.

Cheers!
N.

(Hey Jack, have you tried adding more rods?)

[wols0003]

I sent the money order in the form of 150 us dollars. The web site says "149 US$ shipment free."

[jackthelad]

I think i am getting the hang of it a bit more now, its tricky deciding which rods to use a t first. As i had the day off from work i have worn it for about 8 hours though i remove it an restore circulation every hour. I am hoping to hang 2 hours a night an then wear the penimaster for 3 or 4, if this doesnt bring results then i dunno what will, lol.

[experienced]

Damn.. wish I bought a PeniMaster instead. I can only wear the PeniStretcher for at most 45 minutes before the gradual uncomfort becomes unbearable.

[nofear]

Originally posted by northstar
It's a slow process, I'm expecting at most 1/4" per month, but for someone who has plateaued for over a year, if I manage these gains I'll be thrilled.


I agree it will be a slow process but I am a bit more conservative as I anticipate about 1/8" per month. Either way here's to Happy Growing. Cheers!

[Tekcon]

I bought my PS two years ago... I'm almost thinking of contacting amansworld and seeing if I could order a replacement part.

If not, I'll probably do some modifying to my PS this summer to make it more comfortable.

[northstar]

But I must say, I have to wrap a bit for comfort.

Also, in the literature it recommends 3 hours per session.

That's not gonna happen. After an hour, things are just a little too cool for me to feel comfy with. Still, I can pull it off and put it on relatively quickly, and this is only for about 6 months untill I have a cock bigger than 99% of the population.

Hey, yah gotta think positive here!

(Incidentally, thank you Tekcon for your posts recommending this kind of device. It's only been a few days, but already I'm increasing tension/bars. Hey, it's nice not to be covered in vaseline for a change.)

Cheers!
N.

[Tekcon]

I'm now starting to learn more from people who are using this type of device too.

I'm just glad people who are taking the chance on buying one of these stetchers are having a similar experience that I have had using it.

PS TO PEOPLE WHO OWN A PENIMASTER:
I am going to convert my PeniStretcher into a PeniMaster. They said I can order a replacement part from them, but I need to make sure my current rods fit.

The width of my rods are 5/16" wide exactly. If someone could get a measurement and tell me if they are the same. If they are bigger than that, I'm screwed. If smaller then I can work something out.

If all else fails I can mod my PeniStretcher into a PeniMaster. I have a brief idea on how to do this, but I need to find the parts for it first. Hopefully, (if successful), I'll post a tutorial up on how to do this... but that is a last resort.

Thankz, and be safe using your stretcher.

[experienced]

I would definitely appreciate a tutorial on that mod, Tekcon.

[northstar]

They seem to be 5/16"

However, a few other boys may wish to weigh in here. I tend to find things that should fit, sometimes don't...

Oh, one more thing:

I'm getting a burning feeling at the base of my dick from the Peni where it digs in after I up the tension. Geneally on one side or the other (depending on which leg my dick is hanging down), any recommendations on how I might cushion this area?

Cheers!
N.

[nofear]

Originally posted by northstar

Oh, one more thing:

I'm getting a burning feeling at the base of my dick from the Peni where it digs in after I up the tension. Geneally on one side or the other (depending on which leg my dick is hanging down), any recommendations on how I might cushion this area?
N.

I use one of my wife's scruncci's (?) for her hair providing I am not stretching too far.

[AnotherGuy]

I measured 3/8" wide on the thickness of the bars

[Tekcon]

Okay that is just a tad bit larger, but like I said that can be corrected...

As for the burning sensation at the base... I don't know exactly how to correct that, as I only wear my PeniStretcher for only an hour, so I get a burning sensation at the head and base.

My only suggestion would be to take some padding (medical gause, some wadded up tissue or something like that that can get air, is able to compress fairly easy or something like that).

Hope that helps.

[northstar]

I slid a big Scuncci (we really must figure out how to spell that word..) on before I put on the Peni.

Works pretty good!

Cheers!
N.

[wols0003]

My Penimaster has finally arrived. They notified me last week that my western union money order finally cleared on march 25 and the penimaster would be sent the next day. I got it today through certified mail. Guys... I would advise the use of a credit card to avoid the delay I had to deal with.

The penimaster is quite impressive. Has a look and feel of quality... like something made in Germany, which of course it is. I've worn it for three hours so far today. It's very comfy.

[wols0003]

My Penimaster has finally arrived. They notified me last week that my western union money order finally cleared on march 25 and the penimaster would be sent the next day. I got it today through certified mail. Guys... I would advise the use of a credit card to avoid the delay I had to deal with.

The penimaster is quite impressive. Has a look and feel of quality... like something made in Germany, which of course it is. I've worn it for three hours so far today. It's very comfy.

[experienced]

I've been using the PeniStretcher for 2 or 3 weeks now and have yet to see gains. Maybe I need to buy some baby powder because my head keeps slipping out of the noose (which hurts like hell!) anytime I attempt to increase the tension past a certain point.

[Tekcon]

Well, I haven't measured an ELBP yet, but as far as stretching goes, I'm measured since I got my new rods, and I've been able to up my Stretch up another 1/4" since I've got my new rods.

Probably won't see ELBP gains until another month or so, but just thought I'd give an update.

Later

[Gardenier90]

Tekcon what have been your total length gains from using the stretcher?

[Tekcon]

Total gains from using the stretcher... don'no maybe 1.5" to 2.0" over the past 2 years.

[wannabebigger]

These things are very expensive, have any of you found a decent one for a reasonable price? I can't see spending $279 for the thing if its not guarenteed to work. I made my hanger for like $3 and it works, maybe I should just stick to hanging, lol.

[Determined]

Does anybody know where I can buy the silicone cord which wraps around the head of your penis for the penismaster sold by andromedical? I looked everywhere. Medical supply company, home depot, etc. ... etc..

[experienced]

So anybody have any gains? I stopped a few months ago when I realized I wasn't stretching anything but my head. My extender just can't reproduce the ligament sensation that I feel when I stretch manually.

[nofear]

I have another 22 days before I measure again but you can always tell if gains are coming when you can extend the device further. My gains come, roughly, at a rate of 1/4" per 70 days. In 22 days, this will mark 140 days and I am expecting that 1/4". This would make a total of 1/2" since I began.

[ski-bop]

Nofear.
Thats not bad for gains. If your gains stay consistant then that would mean approx. 1.5 inches/year.
Does your routine consist soley the use of the stretcher or do you do other excercises too. Also how long and how often do you uses the stretcher.

[nofear]

Originally posted by ski-bop
Nofear.
Thats not bad for gains. If your gains stay consistant then that would mean approx. 1.5 inches/year.
Does your routine consist soley the use of the stretcher or do you do other excercises too. Also how long and how often do you uses the stretcher.

I am hoping for it to stay consistent. If it does I will change nothing. My routine started out using the stretcher only for 90 minutes daily (1 session). Then I started manually stretching before I put it on. I found this helped ease the cold and numb feeling it would get. Every 30 minutes I increase the tension. At about the 60-75 minute mark I feel a burning sensation that starts at the base and increases through the shaft. That feeling, I think is the key, to knowing it's working.

[Corpus Grande 4]

I have had the penimaster for 4 months, but just started using it this week as I finally got the nerve to tell my wife about it (I didn't want to use it in secret). The burning you feel I dont think indicates it is working. I get it everytime I use it in the down position. The base ring then digs into the underside part of the shaft within the scrotum. I believe that the burning is due to nerve compression on the underside of the penis where the most sensitivity occurs. If the underside goes numb or loses sensitivity, sex could be difficult. I may choose to stretch in the up postion only, eventhough there is likely less tension on the ligs.

[dem]

the burning around the scrotum can be relieved by using a think piece of cotton (i.e. a sock) between the plastic base ring and your skin. make sure you pull the material around to "insulate" as much skin as possible from the plastic base.

I also highly recommend using some light cotton wrap under the noose as well. At first I was skeptical about this, thinking that the skin-to-rubber traction was crucial to keeping the device on, but I was wrong.

I'm on a routine that includes about 6 hrs/day use of the penimaster, six days a week (sunday I spend with gf). according to most of the studies out there, you can expect to gain .000616 in./hr or approx. .25in/405 hrs. of use.

I created a little pocket xl spreadsheet, that I keep on my pocketpc phone, to log in my times and compute my new projected length on a daily basis. It's motivating to see the hundredths of inches adding up every day. The spreadsheet tells me . . .

my projected length, updated daily
actual length at last measurement,
last date measured,
the total change so far,
the total hours used,
the hours until my next measurement, at a projected 1/4 in. gain.
and the approx. days to next measeurement.

as well as a history of use in day increments.

I bought a digital watch with a stopwatch and countdown timer which I use to accurately track total time used and to warn me to remove the device if worn for too long.

in addition, I measure stretched length as my main measurement. To insure that I measure accurately, I measure using the penimaster to stretch the penis at 1150gr. This way I eliminate the possibility of inconsistent force used to measure. The base ring makes it measure a little shorter, but in return I get a very accurate reading as the base makes a solid foundation to apply the measuring device to. And really, I'm only interested in seeing if I get any gains - I could care less exactly what the ruler reads. I know I'll have a big dick if it works (eventually).

Dem.

[Kemosabi]

The support tray on my Penimaster broke 2 weeks ago. I sent an email to the company and received a new, stronger support tray and 2 rubber straps. I like the new support tray much better than my old one. It just seems to fit better. Also, I've found out that by wrapping like I was going to hang, makes the Penimaster much more comfortable to wear. I've worn it for just under 400 hours so far and have increased my flaccid length by 3/4 inch and erect length 1/4 inch. My erect gains are slightly less than I was anticipating, while my flaccid gains are greater. Instead of taking 1100 hours of use, it will probably take 1600 hours of use for me to gain 1 inch erect. I wear the Penimaster 3 hours/day, normally in the evening while watching TV. When worn under my house coat, my wife doesn't even notice.

[muscleman]

<SNIP by Big Al!>

Please refrain from posting this in every section of the forum! Also, this post was off-topic for the thread!

Last warning!

[longer]

Hi Jazz, I purchased a max-xtender 10 weeks ago . It is a stretching device that you wear 2 hours to 24 hours. You have to set the amount of stretch to what you can wear comfortably. It will stretch from 3 1/2'' to 9''. If you have the tension too tight it lets you know it ,because it starts to sting or cause pain. The price is reasonable, somewhere between $69.00 and $99.00 depending where ypu purchase it. The claim is you can gain 30% of your beginning length after useing it for 10 to 12 months. They say you must use it a minimum of 2 hour per day..... Toronto

[muscleman]

Originally posted by muscleman
<SNIP by Big Al!>

Please refrain from posting this in every section of the forum! Also, this post was off-topic for the thread!

Last warning!

Sorry,if I offended you or anybody else.
It will not happen again.
I felt this post was applicable, but stand corrected as this is not my forum.

Please accept my apology for pissing you off or anybody else.

[longer]

Hi Stillwantmore.....Ive had a Max-xtender for 8 weeks. At first I put too much tension on it. It would hurt so much I had to take it off. I have now learned to back off on the tension. I started with a 6'' er. It wouldnt stretch past 6'' for 5 weeks,then it would go 7'' . But it hurt to much. Now I realize I got to take it easy. I did notice a small rope burn,but it went away after a few days. I havent had any increase in hard on length yet, but it will stretch to 7 1/2 '' flaccid. But it wont stay there when I take the Max-xtender off. I assume that if I keep it up for a year I will get some permanent gain. I would appreciate hearing from others...

[6ft6]

Hi,

I've just ordered a Penimaster due to the positive feedback on the site. I've been able to increase my length with the regular exercises (jelqing 30mins a day + limited stretching) about 3/4 inch so far (in 2-3 months) and was wondering what kind of gains to expect with the extender.

The claims on the website state about an inch every 4-5 months. Is there anybody out there that has used an extender for that period of time and what are your results?

[aPE]

Hey Guys,

Two weeks ago my PeniMaster arrived! But everytime I wear it, my head (of the penis of course) changes color quite fast. Also the head turns a little grey. When I massage the penis for a few seconds it's all gone, but do you guys have the same? If I loosen up the belt my head slips out, so it's not to tight.

Also when I attach the belt, the little piece of cloth gets stuck between the belt and the plastic. Did someone found some smart solution for this? I tried to remove the cloth with my finger, but it's hard.

Any tips are welcome!

[6ft6]

I wouldn't be worried about the changing of colour as long as there's still feeling (sensitivity) in the head. Also the ring of the head shouldn't turn white (meaning bloud loss).

I'd recommend starting with a medium stretch to get used to the Penimaster, which has worked fine for me.
I also keep the penis stetched while I wrap the cloth and adjust the belt. This makes sure that the extender doesn't cause the feeling that skin is stuck between the belt when I adjust the rods.

After wearing it for a certain amount of time you'll notice that you can start on a longer length while putting it on. I keep notes and adjust my starting length every once in a while. It strikes me how good the first sessions seem to be when starting on a new length (or even rod!).

Mind you that I always wear it for a maximum of 1.5 hours, because I'm scared of cutting off circulation.

Hope this helps you on your endeavours....

[aPE]

Thanks 6ft6, I'll just massage the penis every hour after wearing it. I just wan't to be 100% safe. ;)

It's nice to hear it's normal! Good luck!

[longer]

6 ft 6................I been using the Xtender 17 weeks [4 months]. I have seen some changes . Very small ones. When I started I could not stretch past 6''. Now it will go to 7 1/2'', thats not permanent though. So there has been some physical change. Length is more important to me so I am concentrating in the area. I also notice that I can wear it for longer periods of time comfortably. This takes time and various adjustments.

[Dongalong]

I've been using an Andro-penis from Andro Medical for about a week now, half way through the adaptation period.
I was expecting to wear it to work, using it for the 9 hours they recommend. I even bought some baggy jeans to be more discrete but I'm beginning to doubt whether wearing it outside is a good idea.
For 7.75" in erection the device measures about 7" with the current set up.
It seems inrealistic to wear it without being handicapped in some way:
Wearing it upwards - it reaches or passes the underwear elastic!
Wearing it downwards - it looks like a permenant John Holmes boner! and makes you walk funny.
Wearing it sideways - works the best but sticks out my pocket.
Also if the head slips out the loop, apart from extreme pain the device can fall off and out the bottom of your pants (potentially extremely embarrasing, how would you explain that??)

-Does anyone wear it out or at work? if so do you have any advice on comfort and discretion?
-I couldn't find any posts where someone wears it for 9 hours per day, does anyone?
-Has anyone fallen asleep wearing one? what happened to your dick?
Thanks for yor help. If all goes to plan and I can wear it for long enough I should have a long 10" dong in a year.

[aPE]

I don't wear the thing longer then an hour for circulation safety, so wearing it for 10 hours straight doesn't sound smart. (But maybe you already thought of this ;) )

[longer]

Dongalong ,if you wear pantyhose over your Extender it will keep it closer to your body [leg]. Also try wrapping your bone in some material before your put Extender on. Do not wrap it too tight or it will cut of your circulation. I wear mine 10 hours a day, but I have to take it off after one or two hours for 20 minutes. The first 6 weeks it was a real bitch to get used to. Now I got it down to a science and it working fine. In the beginning I got a lot of chaffing and soreness including a type of skin burn,something similar to a charlie horse. But that is in the past now. In my experience I believe that your penis has to get accustomed to the tugging and stretching. This is a whole new thing. Ive been wearing mine for 18 weeks and it is much more comfortable now. There is a hump that most guys go through or I went through before I got to smoother sailing. Good luck. Max stretch when starting PE was 6 inches and now Max stretch is 7 1/2 inches. permanent gain is 1/2 inch onto erection...

[Dongalong]

Thanks for your advice.
This is my 3rd week wearing it and I am up to 8 hours per day, however I have given up trying to wear it outside, it is too awkward and I always fear that the loop might slip and cause pain at any moment or worse come off.
The disadvantage of using an extender like this, is that I am wasting hours of my life at home immobile, it would be much better to do this while asleep.

After doing a bit of research, I found that there are a few hanging devices available for use in bed:

www.thegrip.com
www.acmepenisenlarger.com/basic_suspender_system.htm

However instead of buying another expensive device I have decided to modify my extender to allow the attachment of one of their condom-like weight hanging sleeves,

They are attached by a vacuum and have a larger contact area so they don't restrict the blood vessels locally like a noose.
Therefore they are much more comfortable for extended wearing times and can also be connected to a waist or leg strap, I think that this would be more comfortable and discrete than wearing an extender outside.

The extender does seem to have enlarged my penis already especially in girth, I will measure myself after a month.

[muscleup]

HEY!!! what happened to everyone using the stretching devices? Did u guys fall off the earth? After quite a few posts since 2002, suddenly everyone left. Anyone making any more gains? or are these devices just another gimmick which really is not working for us guys? Would def like to know what is going on with you guys who have posted about your experiences in the recent past. Please keep us informed about your possible progress. thanks guys. I'm seriously thinking about buying one and would appreciate an updated progress report from all of you recent posters.

[aPE]

Haha, at least I'm still here. ;)

You know I bought a Penimaster a few weeks ago, but because it's hard to find private time for more then 3 hours a day I'm not using it enough. :(

Since I bought it I only wore it once for more then 3 hours. (I think in total I have wore it for about 15 times) But I believe in it. I can nearly reach my navel with the head of the penis. The day I can reach it is the proof this instrument works.

I'll keep you posted.

[m0nk3y_man]

i made a homemade jes-extender type thing. I've been using it for about 3 1/2 weeks now. I've been thinking about jelqing before stretching but im always to tired. Im experimenting with different lengths and different amounts of time for stretching. After reading a few posts, i decided to try stretching at max (which on my device is roughly 7 inches) for about 2 hours a night. I set an alarm for 2 hours, fall asleep, wake up and take it off. I guess i'll see how well this works in the upcoming weeks/months

[aPE]

If I may give you a tip. Don't use it when you used alcohol because otherwise you may fall asleep immediately after waking up, leaving the stretcher in place. I don't know what happens to your penis after 10 hours...

[m0nk3y_man]

i could just imagine 10 hours with it on, i tried leaving it on for only 4 hours, and it gets numb and starts to irritate a lil. wow, 10 hours would hurt a lot after waking up.

[Dongalong]

For a few weeks I have been wearing my modified extender with a condom-like weight attachment sleeve and it has increased the wearing time.
I have been able to sleep with it without it falling off and the glans don't seem as cold and numb as it was wearing a noose.
6-9 hours has become easier to achieve.
However it becomes uncomfortable and wakes me up during nightime erections because the openings at the base and rods of the extender are less than 2" so it gets tight and irritating.
I found it more comfortable to hang 1/2lbs off the end of my bed and attach it to the rubber sleeve - the tension seems to be the same and there is less pressure on the penis shaft.

After 1 month wearing the extender I was a bit disappointed by the results in length - no noticable increase but in girth an increase of 1/8th inch (probably due to the dry jelqs I do.)
Maybe the first 2 weeks of adaptation don't achieve much so I'll measure again in a few weeks.

[Magitek]

I've ordered a penimaster and it was shipped yesterday.

Question to Dongalong- What condom like attatchment are you using exactly? Can I have the exact name, I notice on The Grip website they have several rubber sleeve looking things so it's a bit confusing on which one is required for ADS. Have you noticed any negative effects from wearing one and does it allow circulation?

I noticed on the Grip website it says your body heals microtears in about 8 hours, so I guess that's how long you should keep your penis extended for after stretching, penimaster sessions .etc.

[Dongalong]

Magitek, the sleeve I ordered is the: G-Flex weight attachment sleeve at $20.00

To get the correct size, you stretch your penis and measure the circumference, with this information "The Grip" send the correct size.

The only disadvantage of using it this way is the vacuum blister that appears at the tip of the glans, might seem a bit strange at first but it disappears after a few minutes or immediately, after an erection.

I am easily stretching for 9 hours per day every day now but not continually, usually 3- 5 hours with the traction device the rest I do asleep, hanging 1kg from the end of my bed.
When you take off the sleeve, your glans won't be frozen and sore like with a noose so circulation hardy seems to be affected.

I have attached a photo of my modified extender.

[Magitek]

Dongalong- Thankyou for your reply. I'm Liking the penimaster mod by the way, might have to do it myself once I get my penimaster.

Questions about the G-Flex sleeve: does it roll on like a condom? Does it require any wrapping?

I used to use the VTLC tugger but abondoned it because It was stretching more skin then anything. The VTLC forms a vacuum on the glans when the forskin is rolled over the tugger. While this is good in the fact you can stretch without cutting off circulation, I felt like my already long foreskin was the only thing being stretched. After about a week of use wearing it pretty much all the time I noticed allot more skin on my shaft which I didn't like so I stopped using it.

Do you feel the G-Flex sleeve grabs the internal structures of the penis effectively? Does the G-Flex sleeve require allot of skin stretch and is it possible to wear the G-Flex sleeve with the foreskin retracted? Is the vacuum created just on the glans? So the stretch is being pulled from the top of the glans?

Sorry about all the questions, hopefully you'll be able to answer them for me ;).

[Dongalong]

Yes it rolls on like a condom and stays in place like one, gripping all of the contact area.

No need to wrap as this would probably destroy the seal and anyway it is very comfortable to wear.

The G-flex seems to pull mostly on the glans, I wear it with my foreskin rolled back which helps to seal the air from entering the tip - (this might happen if the sleeve is too big and cause it to slip off, so when measuring give the smallest dimension or a bit smaller to "The Grip" when ordering)

Although it grips 3" or so of the penis, the stretchiness of the material means that most of the real grip is at the tip. It increases the more it is tugged due to an increased vacuum and a reduced, tighter circumference around the glans.

Hope I have answered all your questions.

[twatteaser]

Interesting.

[Magitek]

Dongalong- Have you gained much length or anything since using the condom sleeve thingy?

I recieved the penimaster yesterday. Seems great although it does cut off circulation to the head somewhat. I want to buy a condom sleeve now so I can wear the penimaster longer hours, wrapped around knee when I go out, at night in whichever way is best and around the waste while I'm at work (I have to wear shorts). I haven't got a credit card although I can only pay by paypal so I've got a problem in the fact that The Grip only accepts credit cards. When I emailed them asking if they accepted Paypal they just ignored the email. Since ACME accept paypal I may buy a sleeve from there.

If you look at the acme website you can see it has been changed pretty drastically, take a look. The Grip and ACME are owned by the same company are they not? So the condom sleeve should be pretty simmilair to what you have. However it is not on the products list as it used to be. I have contacted them asking how much it is .etc hopefully they will sell me one, if they tell me to get the whole package I shall say I've already bought one or something.

[Dongalong]

I haven't gained much length yet, I started out at 19.5cm (7.75") erect, that was by pressing the ruler in until it hurt then doing a mega kegel! Now I am 19.5cm (7.75") erect but with a more comfortable measuring method, so I must have grown a little.

I have been using my extender since the middle of June but only during the last couple of weeks have I been able to wear it from 7-9 hours per day. I also had 1 week off.

On the andro-penis web site they have the results of a clinical trial,

http://www.andromedical.com/servlets/cambiapagina?pagina=drgom

It is clear that results come slowly, average increase was around 0.5cm (0.2") per month so I wasn't expecting spectacular short term results.
Each week the increase would be almost undetectable at 0.125cm (0.05"), however in 12 weeks it adds up to 1.5cm (just over 1/2") and in 12 months it adds up to 6.5cm (2.5") - enough to give me a 10 inch whopper!

I can be patient for those kind of spectacular long term results.

Are these typical results for all you extender users?

[Tigervilja]

Hello there.
My first post after starting out with this extending-business. My goal is to add a couple of inches to my current 8".
I wonder if anyone has any idea if a larger original size grows more than the smaller ones that most seem to have here.
Logically there should be more room for expansion with 8" instead of 5".
In case anyone wonders why I want the XL-size it is because I know that the type of women I like, really like them big.

[Dongalong]

Hi Tigervilja, I agree, women really love bigger dicks, I want that "oh my god!" reaction when they first see my dick, I think it has to be 9"+ to get that.
To answer your question, if the cells in your penis were merely stretched I think that you would get a bigger increase than the smaller guy - but extenders don't work that way. The traction force that they exert is supposed to break the connections between the cells and use the body's natural reaction to fill in the gaps with new cells, therefore someone who started with 6" a year ago and has grown 2", has the same amount of cells as you have in your 8 incher.

[chi8wannabe]

I have had a Penimaster for about a year but started using it consistently only about 6 weeks ago. I used to wrap the end of my shaft with self-adhesive sports wrap, but that made it too thick and the attachment strap tended to squeeze the shaft too hard and cut off circulation. So I looked through my box of toys and discovered an unused Gflex sleeve that came with the Grip and tried that. Perfect! It rolls on like a condom, has just enough thickness to protect the skin of the shaft from irritation but not so much bulk as to make the attachment strap hard to put on. So I ordered 4 more from the Grip people--$7.50 each. It has enabled me to wear the Penimaster for long periods without numbness or irritation. The only problem I've had is that the base ring tends to push back on my scrotum and cause irritation there, but taking the whole thing off for 5 or 10 minutes seems to take care of that.

I have tried wearing mine at night, but my shaft is pretty thick, just barely fitting through the base ring, and a night-time erection tends to put too much pressure on the shaft and I wake up with some pain, and then the device is hard to get off, although I have always managed to.

Incidentally, since using the Penimaster consistently I have noticed that my night-time erections (without the Penimaster on) are much firmer, enough to wake me up sometimes. I'm 65, and that's pretty unusual.

Oh, I've gained about 1/4" since using it regularly, from 6-1/4 to 6-1/2, so I'm pleased.

[Dongalong]

On the grip system website there is a graph in the testimonials section:

http://www.thegrip.com/grip/asp/asp_testi.asp

The grip also works by traction so results must be similar to wearing an extender. It shows the kind of progress that I have been experiencing after 2 months of extender wearing

It seems that I have been gaining more quickly recently - it has been almost 3 months since wearing it regularly for up to 9 hours per day. As you can tell from my earlier mails there was a time (after the first month) when the length increases were insignificant, just like the plateau in the graph.
I just measured today and I am 20cm bpel.
When I started I was 19cm bpel, (with a more relaxed measuring method than I mentioned in previous posts)

A gain of 0.4" or 1cm = 0.33cm per month so far a bit less than the 0.5cm average advertised by the manufacturers. I was hoping to reach 10" or 25.4cm in a year but I'll probably have to wait a bit longer at this rate unless the gains continue to accelerate.

chi8wannabe - have you tried hanging during your sleep?
I clamp my G-flex to a shoe lace wrapped around a 1.5ltr bottle of water which hangs off the edge of my bed. 1.5ltrs of water gives about the same traction force as the extender when the springs are completely compressed. When I travel I sometimes hang my wash-bag instead.

[chi8wannabe]

Thanks, Dongalong, for your suggestion about hanging. I have tried hanging in bed but found it fairly awkward: (a) since having some back trouble over 20 years ago I don't sleep on my back, and it seems to me that hanging in bed requires that; (b) my bed has a very low footboard (below the mattress), so I have to find a way to drape a weight without having it drag on the edge of the mattress--maybe a chair with a wood back placed at the foot of the bed would do--what do you do? (c) I haven't really found a satisfactory attachment device for hanging--I have a Bib hanger and find it very awkward; I made a Velcro hanger from instructions elsewhere in this forum, but because I am somewhat thicker than average I didn't size it properly and should try to make a larger one, using the Grip GFlex sleeve instead of wrapping the shaft; I think the GFlex sleeve alone used with the hanging attachment provided with the Grip pulls the skin of the shaft but doesn't adequately pull the tunica, which is where we want the stretching to take place.

Anyway, you have impelled me to reconsider hanging and see if I can find a solution that would allow me to stretch at night, too. If I can I should be able to get in 12-18 hours a day.

Does anybody think that more than 12 hours stretching is a bad idea? I lift weights and adhere to the principle that every program must allow adequate recovery time. Gains are made during the recovery stage, not the lifting period; the exercise itself breaks down tissue, the recovery period is when new tissue is created. Does the same hold true for stretching? I know there are guys who are all-day stretchers; do they stretch at night, too?

[chi8wannabe]

Here's one more idea for an attachment device for night-time hanging. How about using the head piece from the extender, drilling a small hole in the forward edge of it large enough to accept a small S-hook and then attaching cord and weight to the S-hook? I think I should give that a try.

By the way, I think I should mention that I am using the PeniMaster, which has an attachment noose that is about 1" wide. This doesn't have the strangulation effect that extenders with the silicone tubing nooses seem to have. I am quite com-fortable wearing the noose for long periods of time.

[timmybigs]

has anyone made a stretcher? or does anyone know of a guide to make one? id rather not risk one of my roommates opening the box when it gets shipped or something.