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J Meister
02-11-2003, 12:11 PM
I have been experimenting with wearing cock rings for extended periods of time to maintain engorgement and with hopes of passively increasing girth. After many months of trying different cock rings and wearing them for gradually longer periods of time, I have developed the following routine for extended cock ring wear:

After my morning jelq and stretch routine, I immediately put on a 1.5 inch inside diameter "Super Stretchy Latex Rubber Ring" around both dick and balls. I kegel hard several times to pump up the engorgement. I then put on a "Mega Stretch Silicone Pleasure Ring" around the base of my shaft. Again, I kegel hard while pulling back on my dick to engorge the shaft. At this point, my mushroom head becames more than fully enlarged and all the veins in my dick become more raised and visible. It's an awesome feeling! I then jump in the shower. I continue to kegel and pull back on my dick periodically to fluff up and maintain engorgement while showering. I remove both rings to wash my genital area thoroughly, wash both rings with soap and then I put the rings back on. After my shower, I towel off and remove both rings. I continue with my morning preparations.

Just before getting dressed, I put on a 1.75 inch rigid "doughnut-style" rubber ring around both dick and balls. Again, I kegel strongly and fluff up. I apply cocoa butter to my glans and the upper part of my shaft (for repairing any irritation from my morning jelq and squeeze session and to heal spots and stretch marks) and then put on the small diameter "Super Magic Fun Ring", being careful to avoid the cocoa butter on the head and upper shaft. I place the small diameter "Super Magic Fun Ring" around the base of my shaft. I have found that this ring provides a little more compression than the "Mega Stretch Silicone Pleasure Ring." Alternatively, I have used a hair elastic; however, the Super Magic Fun Ring is much more comfortable with no risk of pinching tender dick skin. I then kegel strongly to engorge the shaft and head beyond normal erection girth while pulling my shaft back towards my body. I can visibly see the bottom chamber of my shaft expand when I kegel!

Again, always multitasking, I continue to fluff and maintain the engorgement while making the bed, etc. I then get dressed and leave for work, still wearing both cock rings. During my morning commute, I do my morning Kegel/PC muscle routine while driving to work.

After I arrive at my office, I remove the "Super Magic Fun Ring" because I don't like to wear compression-type rings longer than one hour at a time. I continue to wear the 1.75 inch inside diameter rigid rubber "doughnut-style" ring for the rest of my workday. I do my evening Kegel/PC routine while driving home from work. I remove the rigid rubber ring after I arrive home in the evening. When I remove the cock ring, my balls are hanging large and full and my shaft often involuntarily engorges. I leave the rigid rubber ring off until bedtime.

At bedtime, I put on a 1.75" "heavy duty" rigid rubber ring or the 1.75" "doughnut-style" rigid rubber ring around both dick and balls. I go to bed and let the blood flow do its magic. Mistered was fond of doing PE while in a reclining position in a "relaxed" mode because of bloodflow considerations. You rarely get "turtle dick" while relaxing and reclining! I then do some more girth expansion exercises (kegeling and pulling on the shaft) until I fall asleep with the cock ring still in place around both dick and balls. I don't recommend doing this with a compression-type ring or a ring around the shaft only. Wearing the cock ring overnight helps enhance the engorgement from morning woodies and keeps everything in an enlarged state; hopefully stretching the tunica and promoting growth.

P9 once mentioned that he had a friend that constantly wore a cock ring. The friend eventually developed a girth of 7 inches. I am doing this routine in hopes of achieving similar girth gains; however, I would be happy to get to 6 inches.

This routine is for those experienced in wearing cock rings and is potentially dangerous if proper care is not exercised. See the following threads for information regarding the rings mentioned above:

http://www.peforum.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5360

http://www.peforum.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2906

SirJelqAlot
02-11-2003, 12:56 PM
when you say you "keep your dick fluffed up" does that mean you are keeping yourself errect?

i am interested in buying some cockrings to aid with my girth routine and to give me a nice bulge, because i do really intense girth stuff it seems to make my flaccid shrink the day after, and because i pe 5 consecutive days i have a small flaccid all the time, dammit.

what size (diameter) cockring would you recomend for me, my flaccid girth is slightly under 5" and my errect girth is 5.75 ish.

also anyone in the uk, do you know where i can get cockrings? not online, do anne summers do them? i dont have a local sex shop but there is an anne summers near me.

SJA

J Meister
02-11-2003, 12:57 PM
One thing that many cock ring neophytes do not realize is that a properly fitted cock ring allows bloodflow into the genitals and partially restricts the bloodflow back out. As a "grower", I have to constantly fluff to maintain engorgement. The more aroused I am, the more the blood is trapped and stays in my dick. Without fluffing attention, I eventually go soft. If I am fully soft, the cock ring allows the free exchange of blood into and out of the genitals. You will not have an erection the entire time that you wear a cock ring for an extended period of time; however, given the proper arousal your erection will be enhanced. I believe that my cock ring shock routine would be most beneficial to those who have the privacy to fluff up every couple of hours or so during the day.

I have also noticed that all-day cock ring wear seems to engorge my balls and has made them a little fuller. It takes some time to get use to the sensation of something around your balls and pressing on your inner thighs. At first, I never thought I would be able to wear a cock ring for so many hours because I spend most of my day sitting at a desk. I seem to be getting used to the sensation. I especially like the rigid rubber rings because they flex a little; thus, they are more comfortable than metal rings.

J Meister
02-11-2003, 01:07 PM
SJA,

The term "fluffed up" comes from the porn industry. In the old days, there were girls on the set called "fluffers" whose sole job was to fondle/fellate the male stars to help them to be ready with an erection when it came time to shoot their scenes. I use the term "fluff up" to mean achieving a semi-erection or an erection.

As far as size, I would guess that a cock ring for both dick and balls would be somewhere between 1.75 and 2.00 inches (inside diameter) to fit you. It all depends on how big your individual balls are. Each ball has to individually pass through the ring. For me, an inside diameter of 1.5 inches is too small for my largest testicle; therefore, I can't put it on. You might be lucky like P9 and find cock rings in metric sizes with size ranges of 1 to 2 mm. (See discussion in The Wonderful World of Cock Rings thread.)

MDC
02-11-2003, 01:37 PM
J,
How long have you been doing this ring routine? How does it hang if you take a day off now?

J Meister
02-11-2003, 04:34 PM
MDC,
I've been doing the different components of this routine for the past 8 months or so. I've been doing the full blown "Cock Ring Shock Routine" for 2 to 3 days a week for the past 5 weeks or so.

How does it hang if I take a day off now? Well, I'm a perennial "grower"--so I wish that it would hang longer. I think a "shower" would probably see more results from this routine--StillWantMore's extended cock ring wear experience comes to mind. I feel that I'm doomed to a life of fluffing to really show it off. That being said, my balls are hanging fuller and lower and I've noticed increased girth in the flaccid state on days off. More importantly, erect girth and head size have increased significantly. I neglected to mention that wearing the rigid rubber "doughnut" ring can make your package more pronounced and noticeable; an added side benefit to wearing a cock ring all day.

SirJelqAlot
02-12-2003, 11:05 AM
ok, just as a method of seeing what effects a cockring would have on me, i was trying to think of things around the house that would simulate a cockring, after some thought, i remembered something i saw at thunders, i think it was "bibs uli thing" he used a piece of t-shirt material and ties it at the base and gets extra pump during his girth routine. so i thought that might work. i went and got a long thin piece of t-shirt material, did my girth routine, got myself hard, wrapped it round my base several times, then tucked it in to keep it in place. i walked past the mirror and saw a HUGE bulge in my trousers, it was obcene. so later i wonder how much it would affect me, so i do 10 mins ulis/jelqs, get hard, tie the base off, get harder, and measure 8.2"x6", that beats my measurement three weeks ago by 0.25"x0.5". i have been pushing it hard, but damn if it hasnt made my week. i measure again 1 week today, i hope im over 8" without tieing off my base.

:) :) :)

SJA

mcstrate
02-13-2003, 10:18 PM
but i have some semi-loose o-rings from an auto store. not very tight, but i think i'll err on the cautious side, sleep on my hand and it was numb for 2 days.

J Meister
02-14-2003, 09:47 AM
Tried a variation on the evening portion of my routine. At bedtime, I put on a 1.75" "heavy duty" rigid rubber ring, fluffed up and then put the small diameter "Super Magic Fun Ring" around the base of my shaft. I went to bed and did about 45 minutes of kegel/engorgement exercises. Needless to say, the added compression of the Super Magic Fun Ring was impressive. Massive girth with a club-like mushroom head. I was pumped to the max. I have never felt so thick in my life. I'd love to have that kind of girth and size in my pants all the time. It felt awesome. I could definitely feel the tunica and head being stretched and veins were popping out everywhere. I then removed the Super Magic Fun Ring, and did a few more minutes of kegel/engorgement exercises, then went to sleep.

RB
02-14-2003, 10:04 AM
J Meister, Does a viagra induced erection rival the pump you just described?

J Meister
02-14-2003, 10:07 AM
RB,
For me, a viagra-induced erection is harder/stiffer but the pump is slightly less than with the cock ring. I suppose the ultimate erection would be viagra-induced with a cock ring. Could be somewhat dangerous. I've never tried it.

RB
02-14-2003, 02:52 PM
J Meister, how do you put on a nutsack and shaft ring? I envision putting one ball through at a time, then your flaccid shaft. Am I close?

Also, how do you determine the best size for this type of ring? Is it based on you shaft size, and if so, flaccid or erect, or more on the smallest size possible that your biggest nut(s) will fit through?

I'm thinking of tying a loop out of some 1/4" cotton rope I have to see how it works to wear during the day at work. Can you see any potential problems ? If not, I'll try it out and let you know...

J Meister
02-14-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by RB
J Meister, how do you put on a nutsack and shaft ring? I envision putting one ball through at a time, then your flaccid shaft. Am I close?

Also, how do you determine the best size for this type of ring? Is it based on you shaft size, and if so, flaccid or erect, or more on the smallest size possible that your biggest nut(s) will fit through?

I'm thinking of tying a loop out of some 1/4" cotton rope I have to see how it works to wear during the day at work. Can you see any potential problems ? If not, I'll try it out and let you know...

Yes, that's exactly how you do it. Insert one ball through the ring, then the other ball, grab your balls and tug your balls downward as you pull the ring upward. At this point, the ring is in the same position that the "low hanging balls" aficionados over at Thundersplace use for stretching their sack. Next, apply a little lube (I like cocoa butter) to the topside of your glans and the upper part of your shaft and push/pull your glans and shaft through the ring. (Thanks P9 for that helpful tip of using lube before pulling the shaft through.) Snug it up, making sure your scrotum and penis are fully hanging through the ring to the extent possible.

Ring size should be based on the smallest possible size that your biggest testicle will fit through. According to the ladies at my favorite sex shop, for most men, that is 1 3/4 inches inside diameter. That's one reason I like rigid rubber rings so much because they give you a low-cost option for trying different sizes.

With regard to making a cotton rope ring, here are my thoughts. You could potentially experience chafing from the rope and comfort might be an issue. Comfort is paramount in a cock ring and the rounder and smoother the edges touching your skin, the higher the level of comfort. Also, a loop of rope is not rigid. I believe that a "nutsack and shaft" ring should be rigid for maximum effectiveness. With a rigid ring, as your package becomes engorged with blood, it expands to fit the diameter of the ring. I find this expansion to be beneficial and safer for long-term wear as opposed to an elastic-type ring that compresses to achieve engorgement. That is why I am such an advocate of rigid rubber and metal cock rings.

Let me know how the rope thing works. If anything, it may gave you a feel for the sensation of wearing a ring. Ease into it slowly, start at one hour or less and add time gradually.

RB
02-17-2003, 08:10 AM
Ok, I'm wearing it now... :)

Instead of tieing a fixed ring, I simply took a length of the cord, and looped it around my nuts and shaft at the base, and tied a simple half hitch, just tight enough to get some expansion, but not really restrictive.

I'm sitting at my desk now, and it is VERY comfortable. The only feeling I have is actually blood flowing into my shaft. My "flaccid" is very pumped, and hanging down my inseam. This is a pleasant suprise, as usually after an intense blasting session, wearing semi-constricting pants in a seated position doesn't do positive things to my flaccid.

The blood flow feels amazing. I can see this becoming a part of my regular day from here on out...

J Meister, can you see any detrimental effects from cutting of blood outflow with this rope I'm using, to really pump my shaft for some girth work, 5-10 minutes at a time tops? I know It will work for the shaft, just curious if it will pose any danger to my nuts?

RB
02-17-2003, 02:53 PM
Since my day is wrapping up, I thought I'd share my experience. Frankly, I am pumped, literally :)

Today was a 3 five minute session blaster/3 five minute session girth day. After my first girth session, which involved jacking just to the point of no return, clamping off at the base to capture the increased blood flow then erect bending, I used the rope to tie off behind my nutsack and around my shaft. The feeling it gave me was described above. Phenomenal. However, I quickly realized I didn't tie off tight enough, and lost the extended pump after about 10 minutes.

My second session, I tried something new. I jacked to about 80% erect, rk'd hard to inflate my shaft, then took the rope around my shaft only, tied it tight, tighter as my erection subsided. My shaft, however, continued to plump like a fricking ball park frank. Once fully pumped and inflated, but NOT erect, I did my bend routine. HOLY CRAP! I was able to put controlled stress and pressure on the tunica like never before. As I felt my shaft expand more, and kinda lose it's pump due to the expansion, like Bib has described, I played with my head and rk'd more blood in. The result was one of the best pumps I've ever obtained from a girth routine, my shaft was so big I couldn't put my thumb and middle finger around it (my 6" test). After this session, I tied the loop around my nutsack and shaft again, and returned to my desk. As I walked out of the rest room, I was pumped and hanging, fully bulging. I rounded to corner to be greeted face to face with a very hot female client of mine that had come in to sign some paperwork. I don't know if she caught a view or not, but she was ALL smiles, much more so than usual... :)

For my last girth session, I repeated the above, and had an even better, if that is possible, experience.

So what did I learn today? Tourniquet tie on the shaft + erect bends = very thick tunica stretched to the max girth pump :)

Stillwantmore22
02-18-2003, 07:52 AM
WOW, RB, must be nice to PE AT work! LOL, definitely keep us posted on that girth work. I've been tempted to try some bends with my ring on...but, also afraid to do so becuase it's a fixed metal ring and I'm afraid if I swell up too much, even after I'm flaccid I may still be too pumped to take the ring off if I needed to and worried about potential harmful effects.

RB
02-18-2003, 08:01 AM
That was always my internal concern, but it is avoided by the rope. Simply loop it around and tie it tight. When done, untie it restore normal flow... really works fantastically.

I'm only doing extreme girth work M W and F, but damn, after yesterday, I'm really having to fight the urge to go at it again today :)

For those curious as to what type of rope I'm using, it's simply a section of the 1/4" cotton type rope you can buy in 50' and 100' bundles at Wal-Mart type places. It cost like $2.

I do plan to find a youth wrist sweat band to place around my shaft for added comfort, but if tied carefully, there really isn't much skin pinching or chafing...

SirJelqAlot
02-18-2003, 08:25 AM
i use a thin piece of t-shirt material which is strechy, but its long, so i wrap it round my cock several times, which seems to make it less elasticky (thats not a word). anyway after some hard ulis/jelqs etc in my session, i get hard, tie the base off get harder, pull my trousers up, stand in front of a mirror and gawk in disbelief, i dont think its as effective as a rigid ring which you recomend, and i will try to get, but i cant think of anywhere near me that would sell them.

SJA

Stillwantmore22
02-18-2003, 09:09 AM
If ya cant find em locally here's a great place online: http://store.tootimid.com/Products.asp?ParentID=49400
They have 1.25", 1.50", and 1.75" inside diameter rings. Wish I knew where to find those rings with the smaller increments.

RB
02-18-2003, 09:35 AM
If I was gonna buy a cockring, I'd look hard at this one-

http://tugahoy.com/bona_constrictor_cock_ring.htm

Infinitely adjustable to the task at hand, for pe or sex :)

I'm trying to scrounge some materials to make something similar...

fow1
02-18-2003, 10:11 AM
I have not made these for cockrings as such but, I have made several for e-stimming electrodes. If you don't mind copper, I use #6 or #8 copper ground wire, lead free solder, and a torch. I make the different sizes using 1/2" socket set for mandrels to form different ID rings. Someone else mention rings at Ace Hdwe. For ball sac stretchers/weights I have bought 1.5" ID rings at Ace for 50 cents each.

J Meister
02-20-2003, 03:24 PM
RB,
I remember running across the tugahoy.com website while doing a search for cock rings. I also would be curious to try the "Bona Constrictor" cock ring.

Inspired by your posts, I visited my local Lowe's last night to look for some small diameter rope. Lowe's sells rope by the foot, so I only had to buy the short lengths needed to make your rope tourniquet cock rings. I bought a 3' length of 1/4" diameter solid braid nylon rope ($0.14 per foot) and a 3' length of 5/16" diameter twisted braid nylon rope ($0.22 per foot). I chose the braided nylon rope because it seemed to be reasonably soft and nonabrasive (I'm always evaluating for comfort for my tender dick and scrotum skin). I also wanted to find some surgical tubing (the old-style yellow/tan colored stretchy kind) but all they had was the clear vinyl (non-stretchy) kind (1/4" diameter). I bought a couple of feet of the clear vinyl tubing, just for grins.

I gave the 5/16" rope a try for a minute at work today. Seemed to be quite effective. I pretied a half hitch slip knot in the ropes before putting them on. RB, after snugging up the half hitch, do you tie it in place or just rely on the half hitch knot to hold it in place?

It seems to me that much care must be given when using tourniquet cock rings. Frequent monitoring is a must as well as closely watching the clock.

RB, it seems to me that 5 to 10 minutes should be safe enough.

I think that tourniquet cock rings is yet another frontier and takes cock rings to a whole new level. This is a very dangerous exercise and extreme caution should be taken.

RB
02-21-2003, 06:27 AM
J Meister, I tied it in place, you have to experiement to get a feel for how tight it needs to be to allow expansion without cutting off blood flow, as I'm sure you are well aware...

Using a tourniquet in my girth sessions is proving phenomenal. I'm now able to replicate the pump yet flaccid condition that before only showed up occaisonally. Thank you Thank you for inspiring me to give this a go. It's made a HUGE difference... I suspect similar to Bib's uli thing. Guys looking for girth, look at this tie on methond or Bib's uli thing hard... There is no comparison.

J Meister
02-24-2003, 12:12 PM
RB,
Took another look at the Bona Constrictor as sold at http://tugahoy.com/bona_constrictor_cock_ring.htm

It looks pretty simple, a reusable zip tie covered by a braided rubber sheath. $60 plus shipping seems quite pricey to me. I can buy a lot of cock rings for $60.

Have you had any luck scrounging together some materials to make something similar?

RB
02-24-2003, 12:23 PM
I agree. I refuse to pay $60 for a .25 zip tie and .50 worth of covering...

I think the zip tie can be modified easily enough. I had some in my hand, and entire bag of like 25 for $1.50 or something, but another tie caught my eye. It had a releasable clasp built into it, and the tie itself was about 1/2" wide. It looked perfect, but pricey at $5 for 3. I bought them anyway, only to find out that they were way too long and not very flexible, I broke the first one trying to see if I could get the diameter small enough. I'm gonna go back and get the other ties, if it can be made releasable, it should work well for my purposes provided I use some sort of skin protective wrap, or perhaps a baby sock with the toe cut open...

I'll keep you posted. I'm waiting for a client to call, if she does, I'll stop by the hw store when I'm out...

RB
02-24-2003, 01:59 PM
I got the cable ties, they are the standard 8" size. Once you look at the connection end of the tie and the close up of the modified end on the bonaconstrictor site, adapting the tie was very simple. A quick job with a small width fine tooth blade saw like a hack or coping saw...

If anyone does this, make sure you can put the tie through the connector AND EASILY RELEASE IT before you strap the thing to your dick. THESE THINGS ARE NOT MEANT TO RELEASE ON THEIR OWN. YOU MUST MODIFY THEM.

It worked EXTREMELY well for creating the super-inflated yet limber state, allowing good a great girth session. Only problem is I will have to find some sort of wrap or covering, as the ties have sharp edges couple with the raised ridges that grasp the connector, not a good combo on bare skin.

I now need to raid the daughters' hair tie drawer. I seem to recall seeing a type of hair tie that was like hollow on the inside. If I can find something like this, it should be relatively easy to make one hole and feed the tie through, making it just what the dr. ordered... Worst case, a baby sock should work nicely. Just have to find a baby... :)

I'll keep you posted...

J Meister
02-25-2003, 09:32 AM
RB,
I stopped by Ace Hardware last night and picked up some 8" cable (zip) ties. Using a stiff-backed straight edge razor blade (the industrial kind used for removing paint from window, etc.--not shaving your face) I cut the notch out of the clasp end of the cable tie, as illustrated on Bona Constrictor website. The plastic is quite hard, I had to notch out a little bit at a time, like chiseling a notch out of wood. I took care not to cut the locking tab. Sure enough, the notch allows you to release the cable tie. To release, you just pull back on the free end, push towards the loop and slide the clasp to a loosened position. As you previously stated: YOU MUST MODIFY THE CABLE TIE AS ILLUSTRATED IN THE CLOSE-UP PHOTOS ON THE BONA CONSTRICTOR WEBSITE. If not, you'll have to cut the cable tie to get it off; not a pleasant thought to think of getting something sharp enough to cut a cable tie that close to your dick and balls.

While preparing the cable tie, I had a flash of inspiration. I took the 1/4" vinyl tubing that I bought at Lowe's the other day (see above) and slid it over the cable tie. It fits perfectly and provides a smooth, rounded surface for contacting tender scrotum and dick skin. The tubing is quite flexible, yet doesn't stretch logitudinally and has a certain degree of rigidity. Perfect for a cock ring. I cut a piece slightly shorter than the cable tie and slipped it over the cable tie so that it covers it like a sheath. After a few adjustments to the length of the vinyl tubing, I had a functional alternative to the pricey Bona Constrictor--easy to make and with a cost of less than $0.50.

I tested my homemade Bona Constrictor this morning. As shown on the Bona Constrictor website, I wore it around both dick and balls. It works quite well, it was nice to be able to tighten the ring further after it was in place. In my opinion, the weak link of this setup is that you have to be careful not to pinch scrotum skin while bring the two ends together and tightening the cable tie.

It looks to me like the cable tie used in the Bona Constrictor is probably 10" to 12" in length. With the 8" cable tie, there is not much excess length on the free end, certainly not enough to tuck back in the ring as shown on the website. Also, because of the shortness of the cable tie, I put the clasp topside rather than underneath my balls as illustrated on the BC website. I'm curious to know if the braided material can be obtained somewhere. I doubt that it was specifically developed for the Bona Constrictor. After seeing how easy it is to make one of these, I'm surprised that the inventor shows the secret (the modified cable tie) so readily.

Well, this has certainly been a Tom Hubbard-esque moment in my life. Thanks RB for the work you did. Let me know what you think of using the 1/4" clear vinyl tubing for as a protective sheath for the cable tie.

RB
02-25-2003, 09:43 AM
I'll give it a try if the idea I have in my head doesn't work. If I can find the right kind of hair scrunchee, It should totally envelope the tie and collapse upon compression, similar to the bonaconstrictor ring. I didn't get a chance to raid the hair tie drawer last night, maybe tonight...

I love yankee ingenuity :)

mcstrate
02-25-2003, 07:05 PM
i have been jelqing, stretching and uli-ing plus wearing a ing for two days. i'm definatly fluffed up and vieny but when i measure i see no gain. do i need to keep things and be patint or what?

what's up with e-stimulating? i'm horny and interested, please give details.

RB
02-26-2003, 06:19 AM
Two days? I think you need to be patient.

To put it into perspective, if you gained 1 millimeter per day, after 2 days you would only have gained 2 millimeters, pretty hard to measure and see that. But after a month of gaining 1 millimeter, you would have gained over 1", which is a very rare occurence, phenomenal growth.

Give it two months, then see what you gained...

mcstrate
02-27-2003, 05:01 PM
i meant i wore a semi-tight ring for two days straight. kept me plump, but no enlargement. would 2 days on, one day off sound right?

RB
02-28-2003, 12:32 PM
I've decided just today to only work only length until I hit my goal then refocus on girth. This decision has been wrestling in the back of my mind for some time since reading about Bib's exploits and theories, but I was hesitant to give up all girth work as it had previously been so hard to obtain for a number of months, and I didn't want to lose the time. However, I'd like to sincerely thank J Meister for posting this thread that finally led me to a place where I can be comfortable trying out the theory, which is basically a thicker prick is harder to stretch longer than a thinner one. Since this thread lead me to experient, I've come to the conclusion that girth really isn't that hard to get, as long as one works smart. Since I still have an inch or so to go before I hit my length goal, I finally have the confidence to focus on obtaining it, then going for girth.

The zip ties work fantastically for getting a good pump, and with caution can be used to cut off back flow as the bib uli thing is so good at. However, to do so you really have to pull on it, so fine motor control is lacking, which I believe makes attempting to do so more dangerous than a uli thing. The zip tie will easily cut of blood outflow, but to cut of back flow, blood flowing back down the supply arteries which equalizes blood pressure and prevents the super pump, you need to be able to put deep pressure on the shaft, as these arteries run in the center of the cc, while the return veins are on top and outside the cc. With a uli thing, you can easily control the torque, and stop the second sufficient compression is obtained.

In summary, I think the zip tie has excellent potential as an adjustable cock ring provided you protect your dick skin, and there is no way in hell I'd ever spend $60 for a bonaconstrictor, since they are so easily made. However, once I get my length, I'm gonna quit beating around the bush and build a uli thing and have at it. I will then use the zip tie to keep the extended pump between uli thing sets...

It's a plan, anyway. Wish me luck :)

Stillwantmore22
02-28-2003, 02:13 PM
I'm in the same boat RB. I'm putting all my focus right now on length. I'm already starting to make small gains in the bp stretched length area and am going to stay at it until I reach my goal of 9"....I think. Then I will most likely go for whatever increase in girth I want. I really love the fact that several of you are coming together here to work on better girth techniques! The BIB Uli thing/zip tie ideas hold a lot of promise and I hope someone actually PURSUES these exercises as it sounds like they cut out a lot of bullshit work so to speak, by directly focusing on the whole point of girth exercises, which is to swell up that penis as much as possible to expand the inner tissues and over time increase your girth. A very direct approach in a much more focused manner unlike jelqing where so many more factors are involved in what type of results you may get. I've been on these boards for over 3 years now and, this is the FIRST time I've seen any sort of focused effort on improving a given technique. Sure, there have been experiment groups and such but, I've not ever seen anyone say "ya know guys BIB's got a great idea with this Uli thing...I'm gonna give it an honest shot for 6 months and see what happens."

RB
02-28-2003, 02:26 PM
"ya know guys BIB's got a great idea with this Uli thing...I'm gonna give it an honest shot for 6 months and see what happens."


That will be me as soon as I can comfortably and consistently tap bottom in the wife in multiple positions :)

I've hit deep before, and while I've given my wife g spot orgasms in the past, based purely on her reactions to both, the cds seems to turn her into a completely different woman. Until I am it's master, it will always haunt me, so I know I will not stop pe until I get the length I need. If there is a chance girth gains now could slow down that progress or make it that much harder, I don't want to take the chance.

Today I step on the trail of Bib. I do not feel worthy... :)

J Meister
03-11-2003, 12:52 PM
Stillwantmore has posted pics of his "Uli Constrictor." This is exactly like the Homemade Bona Constrictor that I made and described earlier in this thread.

http://www.peforum.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5697

J Meister
03-11-2003, 01:09 PM
RB and Stillwantmore,
I'm working on a refinement of my homemade Bona Constrictor. I found some ponytail elastics covered with a soft cloth--these were "Scuncii*Too" brand, i.e., Scuncii for kids. I went with the kids' version because the diameter of the scrunchie was smaller and the cloth materials was softer than the regular Scunciis. As soon as I get some longer cable zip ties, I'm going to modify the clasp as before and insert the zip tie inside the cloth sleeve so that it is fully covered and infinitely adjustable. I'll let you know how it works when I get it done.

You should still try putting a cock ring/tourniquet cock ring around the base of your entire unit (both dick and balls). Even more intense would be one around the base of your unit and another at the base of the shaft. I think you'll be amazed at the pump you get when restricting the blood outflow in both places. I think that Stillwantmore could go from shaving cream can to soda can proportions!

Stillwantmore22
03-11-2003, 03:08 PM
I dunno J Meister....just something about restricting blood flow to my nuts I dont like. Whered you find these hair scrunchy things? Would be great if you had a Name Brand!

J Meister
03-12-2003, 10:13 AM
Stillwantmore,
Traditionally, most cock rings are worn around both dick and balls. Most cock rings are designed to be worn that way. You need to remember that you are restricting blood outflow more than blood inflow. I've never had a problem with it. Just exercise caution and you'll be ok. Of course, the zip tie device is more dangerous than a fixed rigid cock ring because you can tighten it infinitely and really restrict blood inflow and outflow.

I bought the soft cloth-covered ponytail elastics in the hair care products section of my local supermarket. Like I said in my post above, the brand name is "Scuncii".

Stillwantmore22
03-13-2003, 05:03 AM
Ok Meister thanks! I'm not sure if I'll stick with the 1/4" diameter vinyl hose I'm using now or switch to a Scrunchii....we'll see. Here's my post in the Members Forum with the pics of my home made Constrictor:http://peforum.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5697

J Meister
03-13-2003, 09:54 AM
I have incorporated my new triple/double cock ring setup into my Cock Ring Shock Routine. See this thread for details:

http://www.peforum.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5700

This setup is giving me an incredible pump. For all you guys that are disappointed with your head size, this routine is very good for pushing large quantities of blood into the glans. My coronal ridge gets more pronounced the more I do it; it's now starting to show through my pants! For all of you that want a large mushroom head, give cock rings a try.

I have been trying to keep my unit actively and fully flushed with blood for at least one half hour per day (not counting my regular routine).

J Meister
03-29-2003, 01:05 PM
Last week I finally made another homemade Bona Constrictor, using a longer zip tie and a cloth Scuncii ponytail holder. I modified the zip cable tie clasp as before, then cut a slit in the cloth of the Scuncii and inserted the zip tie. Use the slit to access the clasp and free end when tightening and releasing the zip tie.

From a comfort standpoint, this setup works quite well. Every point that contacts the skin is well-padded and there are no skin pinches. However, the wad of cloth around the base of your dick and balls makes it more difficult to monitor your balls and dick and it is harder to ascertain how tight you have the device. The wad of cloth just blocks your view of things. With the zip tie covered with vinyl tubing, everything was visible and you had a limit (the length of the tubing) to how tight you could have the ring. It made me a little nervous to wear the Scuncii ring because I didn't feel I was in complete control. Also, it was somewhat difficult to release, you have to hit the sweet spot of the clasp just right.

This week I have been using the triple/double cock rings setup for expansion purposes. I'm getting about the same expansion as with the Scuncii ring and it seems to be lots easier to monitor.

Thorne
08-26-2003, 10:55 PM
T^G

Tekcon
08-27-2003, 10:19 AM
Sounds like something I'd like to give a go at. I haven't been able to find a cockring that really fits me, and the adjustibles I've used in the past just are cheap.

Was wondering if you guys when you find the ultimate solution to your constrictor could put up a item list and instructions on how to construct your own.

Keep up the good work.

pefesser
09-07-2003, 04:34 PM
There is a shop near Tottenham Court Road (near where the Anne Summers used to be) that sells a variety of rings for about a tenner, some are adjustable and have a quick release mechanism.

The pefesser.