lol.. Still feel small wtf?

[blkflsh]

Well.... Im 8" right now......

but man...... when i look at it... I still feel small........


I grab the ruler like all the time, and measure constantly.. like fuck .... is this seriously 8"????? doesnt seem big enough to me........

is this a normal phase to go threw? just wanting to get bigger and bigger......

I only have about 5.2" girth though.....

[Degarmo]

Dude I think almost all of us experiance this to some acstent. DLD is the expert on it though. He could explain it the best. I know I experiance this too. The only way I can confince myself that it is bigger is by using a ruler. I am getting better though I only measure about 3 -4 weeks. I just tell myself the ruler can't lie, no matter what I think. Very strange fanomina.. (Spell check is broke so please forgive the spelling errors)

Deg

[christof]

please excuse the spelling errors..lol. It will be hard to do, but I'll try! :)

FYI phenomena..or phenomenon in the singular sense.

anyway..

blkflsh, I really know what you mean. I'm a COMPULSIVE measurer..I must measure 4 or 5 times a day. And I haven't really even gained much.

Looking at christof jr., I can't say that "big" is the first thing that comes to mind. The first word is probably "soft" or "brown." Even when your dick is a big as your hand, it still feels tiny. I do think I'm on the border though..I'm getting close. Sometimes, jr. gets really angry and actually looks kind of imposing...and coming from someone who's been "hung" all his adult life, that's saying something. I don't get the feeling all the time, but I'm getting it some of the time now. I'd like to post some pics some time, like everyone else, to see what you guys think. Maybe when I get a digital camera, I'll do it.

DLD is massive now, so his take is probably the most interesting.

[romanntiko]

Originally posted by blkflsh
Well.... Im 8" right now......

but man...... when i look at it... I still feel small........


I grab the ruler like all the time, and measure constantly.. like fuck .... is this seriously 8"????? doesnt seem big enough to me........

is this a normal phase to go threw? just wanting to get bigger and bigger......

I only have about 5.2" girth though.....

How tall are you? Do you consider yourself in shape?

I'm 6.3 220lb and I am slim but still have some fat around my tummy, it doesn't cover anything but I feel if I had a six pack or very well toned tummy, then it would stand out and look big but i feel the same way and I am a few cm over 7 with nearly a 6 girth.

~R~

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by blkflsh
Well.... Im 8" right now......

but man...... when i look at it... I still feel small........


I grab the ruler like all the time, and measure constantly.. like fuck .... is this seriously 8"????? doesnt seem big enough to me........

is this a normal phase to go threw? just wanting to get bigger and bigger......

I only have about 5.2" girth though.....

I came to the forums with the same plight. I think when I joiined here I was at 8.5" or so (don't know for sure until we get the data back here) but anyway much time has passed since then and I am much larger than that now and I still get those thoughts and feelings. I dubbed this disorder P.D.D. (penis dysmorphic disorder) based losely on the more popular B.D.D. (body dysmorphic disease) I felt since this problem was unique to men that we should have a title for it. I have done extensive studies in this area and worked on many forms of therapy for myself and men that have asked me for help (can you imagine that, men asking psycho DLD for help:)) Two threads I think you should spend some time reading and really taking to heart are:

http://www.peforum.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5127&highlight=Obsessive

http://www.peforum.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4392&highlight=ongoing

You should know that no matter how much reasurance from us, your ruler, your mirror, your significant other, etc. there will be no change in the bad thoughts until you start to tackle this problem with some of the tools available. I list in the threads above some very helpful cognitive skills to practice and learn. Take this serious and start working on it because one thing I know for sure is a longer thicker dick did not stop the terrible self view. 7"-8"-9"-10"-11" 12" ...... when does it stop?

[dino775]

Blk

It's hard to start thinking big, I'm getting there but it's hard like the other day I was talking to this black dude at work and a lot of girls hit on this guy beacuse he has a big dick mentality and I was kind of feeling small but than I thought shit I'm proberly bigger than him.


Dino

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by dino775
...because he has a big dick mentality

Dino, sorry for chopping up your quote but this line is poetic when it comes to PE. One of the most difficult exercises in PE that takes the longest to see gains is the mind. For myself mental gains lag far behind actual physical gains. For me my mental/physical picture looked like this:

at 8" by the ruler I felt 6" in the mind
at 9" by the ruler I felt 7" in the mind
at 10" by the ruler I felt 8" in the mind
at 11" by the ruler I felt 9" in the mind
and so on and so on...

and so on...this mental mediation phase takes while because in a cognitive sence we have lived with a fairly consistant penis size for most of our lives. What does this mean? Basically towards our penis our attitude, habit, vision, feeling have been programmed time and time again over our lives. Now we have found an a secret artform that actually increases the size of our penis, and I am sure pre-pe many of us would have the attitude "YEAH RIGHT". But the fact remains that we have found this secret and it does work. Over the course of my gains I have had to be patient with the mental gains and change of self-view. The brain is VERY powerful and most of the time confusing. Mental conditioning and patients needs to be closely practiced. When a person loses their leg they may mentally feel an itch on the non-existant foot for years.

[dino775]

DLD


Chop away brother, I guess feeling 9 should be ok even though you would be one of if not the biggest dudes in porn. I know with your issues you must really suffer, but I guess if you didn't have your problem you wouldn't have the drive that you to for PE. It's funny how things can shape us into who we are even bad things can bring something good. I like the thing about an art form makes it seems a lot nicer than "dick pulling" :) Well off to work talk to you later.


Dino

[doublelongdaddy]

Dino
:) have fun at work.

[mobydick]

I went from 5x4 to 6x51/4. Now I enjoy standing
in front of the mirror and saying, " John Holms, eat
your heart out".

[GrowingUp]

Boy, does this sound familier. Pre-PE I sat there and felt sorry for myself feeling very insecure. Now, even with the little gains so far I feel great. I've only measured three times, the last to get a base for starting hanging. I am jazzed and I believe it's from believing the ruler; just got a new one, plastic so that I can see through it for better measurement.
Mobydick, I do know that feeling...

Ain't it great......

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by GrowingUp
I believe it's from believing the ruler

For men who are plagued, like me, with checking rituals that surround measuing I have something to add. First I want to describe my situation and see if anyone can relate. This is a typical obsessive attack:

I will wake and go into the bathroom and take a morning measurement. The measurement is excellent but I still see it as being small. I become convinced I measured it wrong so I measure again. Same measurement but my anxiety is now much greater and I still don't make the connection between what I just measured and how it looks to me. I then try to put the measuring device away thinking I will be able to forget about it and move on. In some twisted way in the back of my head I am convinced I did it wrong. After much anguish doubting myself (almost a mental argument between my doubting self and my rational self) I go back and measure again only now I am getting the same measurement but I am feeling smaller and smaller with each episode. This goes on until I feel completely satisfied (can take anywhere from 5 minutes to hours) I did everything perfect and I have extinguished all my doubts.

I know the problem here is that my self-view is off and the ruler is accurate. But during these episodes it becomes difficult to remain rational and realize this. I have found that giving myself a time limit on measuring (limited to 3 measurement) has been helpful and I think I know why. After taking a "quick" measurement I am able to put away the ruler and move on with my day. Even if I am not completely satisfied with the measurement this time limit seems to help eliminate the repetitive circle.

Being obsessive compulsive is a disorder that requires a compulsion in order to be a disorder. What do I mean? Well applying it to the above episode a visual picture can be painted showing how O.C.D. works, thrives and continues to control those afflicted. O.C.D. always starts with some intruding thought. In this case it is "My penis did not look at long as it measured"...everyone has these types of unwanted thoughts but most people have the ability to rationally filter them out, not the Obsessive Compulsive. The O.C. has this thought and the nagging desire for proof to counter the negative thought becomes relentless and the compulsion (measuring) is done over and over and over and over, sometimes for hours until these horrible doubts are squashed.

The problem with this chain of obsessive-compulsive thinking is that we never really get satisfied. The compulsion is a temporary fix to a problem with the way we think. As a matter of fact when I compulse around an unwanted thought I am bringing validity to the thought and telling my brain this thought is real and scary. If I was able to have the thought and move on without problem solving my brain would eventually become desensitized to the thought and it would no longer hold value (hence, the compulsion would no longer be necessary)

My problem is that it becomes very hard to resist the anxiety releasing compulsions because they temporarily fix the problem. But believe it or not when I give myself a strict time limit to the action and move on even if I get an answer I do not like the thoughts go away much quicker. It's called starving the obsession. If an obsession has no compulsion to feed on the obsessions become powerless.

[blkflsh]

Hehe nicely done guys.. thx :)

I'm 5"10 and I have a bodyfat of about 10% (Really low....) and i weigh about 175lbs.. (To the guy that referred my size /thighs or whatever may be the problem..)

All i can say is this...

3-4 months prior, I was measuring in at close to 7.. practically a bit over 6.5 i can say.

TODAY... I am just a tad bit under 8....

BASICALLY.... I am happy ... and let me be one to tell you this stuff works!

Only thing i actually do is stretching.... just a BIT of jelqing.. nothing much.

Sitting here on my computer reading and such, I grab it under my leg and pull it down/left... then down /right side... then straight down... then straight up...... I have noticed this has given me awesome gains close to an inch...

DLD- what do you think of this exercise? It's all im really doing right now... I'm not to into PE that far to invest my time/money into gadgets/bibs and such.. so hopefully i can get another .5 -1" more outta it :)

Thx guys agian!

[pamdaga]

I think there is a very real danger of PE making one a little off-kilter perspective-wise too.

You know, at some point, the normal guy who has turned weightlifter passes that point where wants to be healthy and look good and begins to want to look like one bigass, vein-rippled muscle with a little head perched on top. He thinks he looks great! Most other people shake their heads and wonder what has driven him to go to such extremes.

Of course, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, it's all up to the individual and their idea of ideal personal growth. However, unlike in bodybuilding, this penis thing coudl theoretically be USED again. It's going to actually go inside someone else, and bigger is definitely not always better in such cases. Sure, it might make you feel manly to cause a girl to scream in pain, but the novelty would wear off after a couple girls excused themselves to the bathroom and hopped out the window in order to escape your penis.

DLD is blessed with a woman who can handle the cockosaurus that swings pendulously between his legs, but at least 7 out of 10 mortal women would probably flee out of a bathroom window after getting a look at it. I mentioned to him when he first appeared here with his obsessive drives that he really needs to get to the source of his feelings of inadequacy and powerlessness rather than grow a third leg because that thing might, literally, bit him in the ass some day. I wonder if his nurturing involvement with this community has been more beneficial for his self-esteem than his large penis.

The ruler doesn't lie. Choose a size you want and go for it - then be happy!

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by pamdaga
DLD is blessed with a woman who can handle the cockosaurus that swings pendulously between his legs, but at least 7 out of 10 mortal women would probably flee out of a bathroom window after getting a look at it. I mentioned to him when he first appeared here with his obsessive drives that he really needs to get to the source of his feelings of inadequacy and powerlessness rather than grow a third leg because that thing might, literally, bit him in the ass some day. I wonder if his nurturing involvement with this community has been more beneficial for his self-esteem than his large penis.

Pamdaga, I remember your post too. You were right then and now. A bigger penis has not solved these issues. I know that now because I used to say to myself "If I can just get to 9" I will feel good" then it became "If I can just get to 10" I will feel good" then it became "If I can just get to 11" I will feel good" and so on. I have reached my final goal many times with little or no relief for my O.C.D. You are right about Jen too, she loves big cock thank goodness. I am now close to my retirement I think (Yeah right).

I feel much better today as a person thanks to you vets getting me to finally talk and express my problems. I have more confidence and I don't get stuck in the O.C.D. world as much. Today I am happy but the PE still has not slowed.

Originally posted by pamdaga
The ruler doesn't lie. Choose a size you want and go for it - then be happy!

My ruler lies to me all the time:D or is that me lieing to my ruler:D

[YGuy]

Originally posted by pamdaga

You know, at some point, the normal guy who has turned weightlifter passes that point where wants to be healthy and look good and begins to want to look like one bigass, vein-rippled muscle with a little head perched on top.


So true. I think that applies to me with PE and many guys here.

[pamdaga]

I'm just curious here, DLD, but how much do you feel that your contributions to the PE community have helped improve your self-image? I recall when you were really down, and now it seems like you are far more confident and generally fairly happy. How much of that is related to the fact that you know you have helped so many people achieve their PE goals?

I haven't done a fraction of what you have, but I do feel fairly good about the small insights I have dropped here and there. Usually, men compete with one another. Here we are able to work together to establish a body of knowledge and support each other in this most personal of hobbies.

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by pamdaga
I'm just curious here, DLD, but how much do you feel that your contributions to the PE community have helped improve your self-image? I recall when you were really down, and now it seems like you are far more confident and generally fairly happy. How much of that is related to the fact that you know you have helped so many people achieve their PE goals?

Most of it comes from this. When I am able to help someone make gains that never could before I feel incredible. I don't have a lot of ways to stimulate happiness and/or satisfaction in my life due to some of my limitations. When I help someone change a part of their life that they never thought possible I feel this satisfaction. I guess it is like anyone who has a job they love to do and the feeling they get when they do it well. In my case I have jumped into pe 100%, this is all I do now as a full time job. It gives me much satisfaction. I spend my days writting programs, helping men who are struggling, developing exercise, working as a mentor, developing my site, answering emails and PM's and talking on the phone. I feel like I finally make a difference and that makes me happy. For a long time I felt as though I had no real purpose but then I found something I was good at and it has changed my life.

[SirJelqAlot]

something i have started doing is when watching porn (works well with blowjob porn), have a quick comparison between yourself and the guy. for those of you familiar with ideepthroat.com porn you may have noticed that the guy has a pretty big dick (id venture 8.5" -9", but pretty big), well from measuring i know that post jelq i am easily over 8", and pre jelq im about 7.75", so i was watching heather from ideepthroat.com suck off this guy, and i paused it and held my dick at the same angle as his was, and i thought "my dick is as long as his apart from his head", i then realised how big this guy is and thought "cool", plus i think i might have a bit more girth than him.

just dont go comparing yourself to mandingo or someone like that.

SJA

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by SirJelqAlot
just dont go comparing yourself to mandingo or someone like that.

woops...too late

[GrowingUp]

SJA, so if I understand you correctly, watching ideepthroat.com is in fact research (and development).

[doublelongdaddy]

Originally posted by GrowingUp
SJA, so if I understand you correctly, watching ideepthroat.com is in fact research (and development).

For me it's therapy:D My BDD goes mental when I see another penis so looking at porn is a "face my fears" type of therapy.