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08-27-2001, 04:30 PM
Hey guys!

I was wondering if anyone could help me with doing kegels correctly.

Should I contract the base of the PC near my penis or the whole muscle?

How hard should I contract? Should I do multiple repetitions or long "holds"? Is it better to do flexes slow or fast?

Thanks for you help.

J2G

Canuck
08-27-2001, 08:12 PM
I have been doing these since January when I first started PE. At first after 25 kegals I was tired. I would do about 1 second holds or maybe even less. I would wait about 1/2 hour and do anothe set of 25. As time went on I was able to increase the duration of the hold to 2 seconds, then 3. After every 25 I would try to hold for a minute, but seldome made it. That's a long time.

Today I usually do 2 sets of 50 holding each one from 2 - 3 seconds. For a variation I will sometimes do a quick 50 and then sometimes I will do a delibert very slow set until the muscle get tired.

The most important thing is to do them every day as they are the one thing that you can do in a business meeting and no one even knows what you are doing. Kind of fun.

Enjoy the board.

Canuck

dino775
08-28-2001, 01:17 PM
When your taking a leak stop in the middle thats the muscle you want to isolate. I do them while driving a couple of hundred in sets of 100 try to hold every 25th one for 30 to 60 seconds. Dont overdue it at first

Dino

Alcatraz
08-29-2001, 03:08 AM
Jelq2grow,

Like Dino775 said, the PC muscle is the muscle you use to stop the flow of urine. It also is the muscle you flex when you throb your erection intentionally.

I offer the following tried and true fool-proof kegel routine. Do it intensely for 4 weeks and see for yourself.

Routine:

While erect, flex your PC very hard and then completely release. The flex need only last for a moment. Work your way up to a set of 100. At first you will probably find that you become fatigued. That is normal, keep at it.

After a short rest, begin the second part of my routine. Flex hard and hold for 10 seconds. Rest briefly to recover somewhat then repeat for a total of 10 "flex and holds."

Properly done, this will be difficult at first. But after a few weeks very good things will start to happen. In aproximately 4 to 6 weeks you should be able to throb so intensely that your partner will probably comment about it. Orgasms usually improve due to the stronger muscular sensation you will then have. And of course, ejaculations will shoot farther.

I recommend doing this every other day instead of every day. This goes along with the traditional weight training concept of 48 hours rest for any given muscle workout. I've tried it both ways and have always had better results with the every-other-day strategy.

Advanced Routine:

When the above routine becomes easy, repeat the whole thing. (100 flexes, 10 "flex and holds", 100 flexes, 10 "flex and holds") Improvement will be evident at this point. Others will recommend more repetitions but I say focus on squeezing even harder - as hard as you possibly can. Then when doing "flex and holds", hold for longer periods of time.

Observations:

I have a "strong flex" and a "hyper flex". I do the bulk of my kegel exercises with "strong flexes". Once I am "pumped," I incorporate hyper flexes into my flex and holds. This should be done while the "window of oportunity" is open for your workout. The window of opportunity is after you a become pumped but before you become fatigued. If masturbating while hyper flexing, notice the heightened sensation now available.

You would think that regular sex might maintain a super strong PC muscle - but it doesn't for me. I began my current sexual relationship with a killer PC muscle only to have it dwindle to regular strength since I quit kegeling in lew of sex. The deterioration took about 3 weeks. Now my girlfriend knows all about my PE efforts so I Kegel and have regular sex both. That's the ticket.

Canuck
08-29-2001, 12:55 PM
Alcatraz Question

I like your Kegal routine and may try it myself at least to see how my own program is going.

Since you are advocating the 48 hour break between exercising what about hanging? I know it is not a muscle but could the same reasoning apply as well?

My thoughts were that an extended time like 5 days continious would ware down the ligs and make them extend. Your comments would be welcome.

Canuck

Alcatraz
08-29-2001, 11:51 PM
IAmCanuck,

I feel that hanging should be timed independently of kegels. As Bib has said (and I have confirmed), hanging can be done several days in a row depending on how your body reacts. Therefore I often go 2 or 3 days in a row without a break, since I am never sore from hanging.

I simply strategize my kegels like any other muscle workout. Gains from hanging, however, involve controlled damage of many tissues which don't "flex" like a muscle. Therefore it's a little bit like apples and oranges. It might be that healing of micro-tears heals the way we want if some of the healing occurs while stretched. This could explain how Bib was able to have his massive gains from 5 day in a row hanging routines.

In summary, I sest Kegeling every other day. Hanging I sest 2 or 3 days on, then 1 off - changing as necessary when your body tells you to change.